Re: A sameas widget for Firefox

2010-03-24 Thread Pierre-Antoine Champin
Hi all, This is a cool stuff, indeed. I think an interesting use case would be to dig into a link to use its href URI instead of its text. Because let's face it, the web contains much more links with human-readable labels than plain URIs in the body of a page... I'm affraid my poor knowledge of

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Pierre-Antoine Champin
Hi Hugh, interesting suggestion; I have also been frustrated with dbpedia URIs in the adress bar, which you have to (or forget to) change when you want to feed them to an RDF agent... However, 406 seems to be the most appropriate answer to give. Falling back to 301 in too many different

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Pierre-Antoine Champin
Hi again, thinking twice about my answer... If you follow my suggestion, for example, to the query GET /foo.html HTTP/1.1 Accept: text/turtle you would answer HTTP/1.1 406 Not acceptable Content-type: text/turtle @prefix : http://example.com/some_vocab . /foo.html :represents

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Hugh Glaser
(Sorry, I should have given the URI of the document I quoted from: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616.) Yes. Many thanks. I had looked for just the response you describe from dbpedia, and decided that the (since it didn't suggest the rdf URI), it probably wasn't something that was done. And even

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Richard Cyganiak
Hugh, On 23 Mar 2010, at 22:50, Hugh Glaser wrote: Assuming that we are in the usual situation of http://foo/bar doing a 303 to http://foo/bar.rdf when it gets a Accept: application/rdf+xml http://foo/bar what should a server do when it gets a request for Accept: application/rdf+xml

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Nathan
Hi All, After much thought recently I've taken the following approach (please do negate the fact I'm using .html etc in examples, it's only for clarity in this email). Suppose I have a real world object: http://example.com/resource/London and then an html and rdf description

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Nathan
forgot to mention.. if you have the following urls: http://example.com/resource/London http://example.com/descriptions/London.html http://example.com/descriptions/London.rdf then you can simply enable multiviews for apache and 303 /resource/London through to /descriptions/London, and apache

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Robert Sanderson
To abuse an overused quote: And now you have two problems. Firstly, you have an additional kitten (URI) to pay for with the descriptions resource in addition to the other URIs. Secondly, the semantics of your descriptions resource are unclear. Is it an information resource or not? Is it a

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Ted Thibodeau Jr
On Mar 24, 2010, at 09:13 AM, Richard Cyganiak wrote: Hugh, On 23 Mar 2010, at 22:50, Hugh Glaser wrote: Assuming that we are in the usual situation of http://foo/bar doing a 303 to http://foo/bar.rdf when it gets a Accept: application/rdf+xml http://foo/bar what should a server do when

SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Yves Raimond
Hello! We are in the process of rolling out some links to DBpedia over in BBC Programmes. However, we are facing a small issue. We use our own categorisation scheme based on SKOS, and then want to add some sameAs links to DBpedia. For example, we currently publish the following statements:

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Nathan
Nathan wrote: Robert Sanderson wrote: To abuse an overused quote: And now you have two problems. Firstly, you have an additional kitten (URI) to pay for with the descriptions resource in addition to the other URIs. Secondly, the semantics of your descriptions resource are unclear. Is it an

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! We are in the process of rolling out some links to DBpedia over in BBC Programmes. However, we are facing a small issue. We use our own categorisation scheme based on SKOS, and then want to add some sameAs

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Yves Raimond
Is that an issue? Should we drop SKOS altogether if we go on with that, or should we use skos:exactMatch instead of owl:sameAs? see also http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_focus I'm running out of excuses for not having added this already... Great, thanks for the link! However, I'd like

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: Is that an issue? Should we drop SKOS altogether if we go on with that, or should we use skos:exactMatch instead of owl:sameAs? see also http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_focus I'm running out of excuses for not

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Yves Raimond
Is that an issue? Should we drop SKOS altogether if we go on with that, or should we use skos:exactMatch instead of owl:sameAs? see also http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_focus I'm running out of excuses for not having added this already... Great, thanks for the link! However, I'd like

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Nathan, On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Robert Sanderson wrote: Secondly, the semantics of your descriptions resource are unclear. Is it an information resource or not? Is it a conceptual set of all of the formats of the descriptions of the original

Re: SKOS, owl:sameAs and DBpedia

2010-03-24 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi all see also http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_focus However, I'd like to understand why a sameAs would be bad here, I have the intuition it might be, but am really not sure. It looks to me like there's no resource out there that couldn't be a SKOS concept as well (you may want

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Richard Cyganiak
Hi Ted, On 24 Mar 2010, at 15:31, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: If I ask for application/rdf+xml representation of http://foo/ bar.html, you *SHOULD NOT* 200 OK and give me text/html *unless* you are also and simultaneously providing a list of other alternatives (not formatted here as it would be

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Nathan
Robert Sanderson wrote: Hi Nathan, On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Robert Sanderson wrote: Secondly, the semantics of your descriptions resource are unclear. Is it an information resource or not? Is it a conceptual set of all of the formats of the

Re: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-24 Thread Hugh Glaser
Thanks guys - I may be getting lost here :-) Some comments. Richard, I'm not sure why you see it is a UI problem. (Remember - LD is about machine-processable data.) The only UI that might be involved is the web browser that was used to view the original LD. If you meant that, then yes, it is; the