Re: ISSUE-75: Is method case-sensitive?

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:46:51 +0200, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 21, 2006, at 00:18, Mark Nottingham wrote: Make it a SHOULD and twiddle your CR exit criteria to take it into account; in the long term, implementations will sort themselves out. My thoughts exactly. A

Re: XMLHttpRequest Object feedback

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:04:53 +0200, Mark Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great stuff! A few quick comments on the draft; * responseText attribute - type the response as an HTTP entity explicitly (you already do this for the request data); that way, there's no ambiguity about what

Re: XMLHttpRequest Object feedback

2006-04-21 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Mark Nottingham wrote: example) would contain a user name and password. I *assume* you're referring to the userinfo production in RFC3986; e.g., http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/?query It may be better to use this terminology (userinfo) explicitly, along with an appropriate reference.

Re: XMLHttpRequest Object feedback

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 2006/04/21, at 6:34 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: * responseText attribute - type the response as an HTTP entity explicitly (you already do this for the request data); that way, there's no ambiguity about what level the implementation operates at. I.e., XHR won't give you direct access

Issue: Authentication Credentials

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
[ from the big comment e-mail; raising as a separate issue, as requested ] If the browser is already sending credentials for a particular protection space (to use RFC2617 terminology), XHR SHOULD send them when accessing resources in the same space. It'll need to define precedence

Issue: request bodies

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
[ from the big comment e-mail; raising as a separate issue, as requested ] The current draft says that: If the method is POST or PUT, then the data passed to the send() method must be used for the entity body. This doesn't account for other request methods that may have a request body,

Re: ISSUE-75: Is method case-sensitive?

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
The specs last a *lot* longer than the current versions of Mozilla, Safari and IE. There's a place for making sure you have a path from the current implementations to the new standard, but this isn't it. Specifying this behaviour well isn't going to cost anything; some implementations

Re: ISSUE-75: Is method case-sensitive?

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:33:57 +0200, Mark Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The specs last a *lot* longer than the current versions of Mozilla, Safari and IE. Sure, so does content. There's a place for making sure you have a path from the current implementations to the new standard,

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Abstract section

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:45:46 +0200, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The abstract section is a bit vague, out of the document context. Maybe because of the some. Yeah, I agree. What about? This specification defines the XMLHttpRequest object, an API that provides additional HTTP

Re: ISSUE-75: Is method case-sensitive?

2006-04-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Mark Nottingham wrote: There's a place for making sure you have a path from the current implementations to the new standard, but this isn't it. Specifying this behaviour well isn't going to cost anything; some implementations won't be conformant for a little while,

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - history in Introduction section

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:45:54 +0200, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This information is very contextual to the history of XMLHttpRequest Object *now*. Would it make sense in a few years from now on. I would suggest - to remove it - and/or to create an Appendix about the

Re: ISSUE-75: Is method case-sensitive?

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 2006/04/21, at 11:13 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: There's a place for making sure you have a path from the current implementations to the new standard, but this isn't it. Specifying this behaviour well isn't going to cost anything; some implementations won't be conformant for a

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:44:48 +0200, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, Address extensibility. The new extensibility section currently contains the following text: pExtensions to the codeXMLHttpRequest/code interface are reserved for future work by the Web APIs WG. WGs besides

Re: No arguments to XMLHttpRequest.send (ACTION-58)

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:41:38 +0100, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there is need for some perspective here. Mozilla isn't broken in that .send doesn't work at all or that we in some cases have very broken behaviour. We simply follow DOM convention and have all the parameters

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:38:05 +0200, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very silly, the VendorMember scheme is entirely stupid, it's completely useless for authors, we can't do anything with it, and is much worse than simple invented terms that eventually get standardised. I didn't

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Ley
Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jim Ley wrote: This is very silly, the VendorMember scheme is entirely stupid, it's completely useless for authors, we can't do anything with it, and is much worse than simple invented terms that eventually get standardised. It is very useful if it is

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:44:48 +0200, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, Address extensibility. The new extensibility section currently contains the following text: pExtensions to the codeXMLHttpRequest/code interface are

Question on what the script's context means

2006-04-21 Thread Boris Zbarsky
The documentation for the |uri| argument to XMLHttpRequest.open says: A URI, which MUST be resolved to an absolute URI using the script's context window.location.href value as base if available. What is the script's context exactly? It's not defined in the spec. Assuming we limit

Re: Issue: request bodies

2006-04-21 Thread Julian Reschke
Mark Nottingham wrote: [ from the big comment e-mail; raising as a separate issue, as requested ] The current draft says that: If the method is POST or PUT, then the data passed to the send() method must be used for the entity body. This doesn't account for other request methods that may

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Brad Fults
On 4/21/06, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very silly, the VendorMember scheme is entirely stupid, it's completely useless for authors, we can't do anything with it, and is much worse than simple invented terms that eventually get standardised. Completely agreed. This is how we get

Re: [comment] XMLHttpRequest Object - Address Extensibility

2006-04-21 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Brad Fults wrote: Agreed. Also, I think the what if someone uses a good property name for a lame implementation isn't as much of a concern because we're talking about major browser vendors, not any random paster. Are you talking about the same browsers we've been living with for the last 12