Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: Cheer up, I can think of _much_ worst things that have popped out of the W3C onto the Web than Web Storage:) Yeah but they typically have minimal impact on the deployed Web,

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:56:33 +0100, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: I assume you want to move on to the XHR-like example, so I've just got a few clarification questions about it... The other examples are important too. If the idea is to replace CORS with UM it at least has to

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Tyler Close wrote: I assume you want to move on to the XHR-like example, so I've just got a few clarification questions about it... The examples are equivalent as far as I can tell. Both are important; for me, the video one is more important since I'm editing the spec

Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: It seems pretty clear that multi-process UAs are refusing to implement the requirement. It also seems likely that more UAs will go multiprocess over time. Thus, it may not be possible to exit CR with this requirement. For this case, I

Re: call for reviewers: XMLHttpRequest Last Call

2009-12-09 Thread s...@rckc.at
Documentation: http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20070712/user-agent-spoofable-using-certain-programming-languages/ Greetings!! -- Eduardo http://www.sirdarckcat.net/ Sent from Hangzhou, 33, China On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:46:43

Re: call for reviewers: XMLHttpRequest Last Call

2009-12-09 Thread s...@rckc.at
oops I meant http://kuza55.blogspot.com/2007/07/exploiting-reflected-xss.html -- Eduardo http://www.sirdarckcat.net/ Sent from Hangzhou, 33, China On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM, s...@rckc.at s...@rckc.at wrote: Documentation:

RE: [EventSource] Comments to the current draft

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: I suggest to change This can result in considerable power savings. to This can result in considerable resource savings, e.g. power and data usage. I've added a mention of data usage savings, though I've avoided the use of the word

[widgets] PC simplifying some rules (editorial)

2009-12-09 Thread Cyril Concolato
Hi all, I noticed that 9.1.3. Rule for Finding a File Within a Widget Package indicates that the algorithm returns either a file, null, or an error.. This is not exactly true since if it does return an error or null, it always returns a processable file. I suggest changing the introduction as

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Cyril Concolato
Scott Wilson a écrit : On 3 Dec 2009, at 17:26, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com mailto:scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Some more potential test case errors and fixes: == bl.wgt ✔ Tests the UA's ability to locate

Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: It seems pretty clear that multi-process UAs are refusing to implement the requirement. It also seems likely that more UAs will go multiprocess over time. Thus, it may not be possible to exit CR with this requirement. For this

Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: Ok, I'll see if I can pump out a test suite over the next month or two. Let me know if you have a preferred format or conventions that you would want me to use. Cool, thanks. I don't have any personal preferences here. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Cyril Concolato
Hi all, Scott Wilson a écrit : Some more potential test case errors and fixes: == bl.wgt ✔ Tests the UA's ability to locate an icon in a locale folder and at the root of the widget. To pass, after processing, the icons list must contain a pointer to locales/en/icon.jpg, and icon.png,

[widgets] Draft Agenda for 10 December 2009 Voice Conf

2009-12-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the 10 December Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all of the agenda topics via public-webapps is encouraged (as it can result in a shortened meeting). Please address Open/Raised Issues and Open Actions before the meeting:

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 9, 2009, at 14:31 , Cyril Concolato wrote: Actually, I have a problem with the way the test suite result are expressed. Since there is no normative algorithm for the selection of the actual displayed icon, why should the test suite results but so strict. In particular, why does an

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Scott Wilson
On 9 Dec 2009, at 13:46, Robin Berjon wrote: On Dec 9, 2009, at 14:31 , Cyril Concolato wrote: Actually, I have a problem with the way the test suite result are expressed. Since there is no normative algorithm for the selection of the actual displayed icon, why should the test suite results

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Cyril Concolato
Robin, Robin Berjon a écrit : On Dec 9, 2009, at 14:31 , Cyril Concolato wrote: Actually, I have a problem with the way the test suite result are expressed. Since there is no normative algorithm for the selection of the actual displayed icon, why should the test suite results but so strict.

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Tyler Close
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Tyler Close wrote: I assume you want to move on to the XHR-like example, so I've just got a few clarification questions about it... The examples are equivalent as far as I can tell. Both are important; for

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Tyler Close wrote: Ok, then for this initial simpler case, the simplest UMP solution that satisfies the stated security constraints is for marketing to put the product codes at a URL like: https://marketing.corp.example.com/productcodes/?s=42tjiyrvnbpoal , where

Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Ian Hickson wrote: The requirements were fulfilled, that's why it's ready for LC. It's just not ideal. I'll see if I can come up with some text when I update the spec for LC publication, though. I've added an issue marker before the ToC. -- Ian Hickson

Re: Length of LC comment period

2009-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Ian Hickson wrote: The requirements were fulfilled, that's why it's ready for LC. It's just not ideal. I'll see if I can come up with some text when I update the spec for LC publication, though. I've added an issue marker before the ToC. Thanks, Ian!

RE: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (2)

2009-12-09 Thread Larry Masinter
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-iri-bis-07#section-5 gives several different examples of normalization and comparison of strings for the purpose of identification. There are significant differences in alternatives for how to do comparison of Unicode file names. I can't figure out from

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Tyler Close
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Ok, let's move on to a more complex case. Consider a static resource that is protected by a cookie authentication mechanism. For example, a per-user static feed updated daily on some server by some automated process. The server

Re: Semi-public resources in Uniform Messaging

2009-12-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Tyler Close wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Ok, let's move on to a more complex case. Consider a static resource that is protected by a cookie authentication mechanism. For example, a per-user static feed updated daily on some

RE: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (3)

2009-12-09 Thread Larry Masinter
Your reference to 'every drive-by you should use this! argument' is mainly irrelevant to my comment and I assume your goal was to be insulting, alluding to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_shooting -- unless you have some other explanation for your intent? The fact that you got similar

File API: Directories and System

2009-12-09 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi all, as discussed in the joint WebApps API - DAP face to face, here is a rough proposal for the Directories and System parts of the File API: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/file-system/file-dir-sys.html There are two entry points. One is through navigator.device.fileSystems(), which upon

RE: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (7)

2009-12-09 Thread Larry Masinter
FWIW, just to be clear: My comments about versioning and version numbers only apply to the URI scheme, and not to language specifications in general. I haven't reviewed any of the other WebApps documents, except in the context of reviewing the URI scheme. In general, I support appropriate use

Re: The most basic File API use case

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Uhrhane
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Peter O. Ussuri uss...@threetags.com wrote: Hi Robin, Thanks for your response! Opera's original file system API also had encoding as part of its call that wrote out text — I think that's a

RE: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (7)

2009-12-09 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Larry, WOW: It's a pity you were not involved in the discussions around PC's version attribute. Thanks, Marcin From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Larry Masinter [masin...@adobe.com] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: The most basic File API use case

2009-12-09 Thread Eric Uhrhane
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi Peter! On Dec 7, 2009, at 22:51 , Peter O. Ussuri wrote: Fair point - playing with encoding(s) is probably not the right place here. We thus can have just a binary builder and leave text/strings out of the 'building'

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 Dec 2009, at 17:26, Marcos Caceres wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Some more potential test case errors and fixes: == bl.wgt ✔ Tests

Re: [widgets] test-cases for icons: some possible errors

2009-12-09 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Dec 9, 2009, at 14:31 , Cyril Concolato wrote: Actually, I have a problem with the way the test suite result are expressed. Since there is no normative algorithm for the selection of the actual displayed icon, why should