Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Dmitry Titov
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > > This doesn't address the problem that authors are unlikely to even > attempt to deal with this situation, given how rare it is. And even > less likely to deal with it successfully given how hard the situation > is reproduce while testing.

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Dmitry Titov wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Dmitry Titov >> wrote: >> > Nobody proposed locking the file. Sorry for being unclear if that sounds >> > like it. Basically it's all about t

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Dmitry Titov
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Dmitry Titov > wrote: > > Nobody proposed locking the file. Sorry for being unclear if that sounds > > like it. Basically it's all about timestamps. > > As Chris proposed earlier, a read operation can grab

IndexedDB and MVCC

2010-01-15 Thread Chris Anderson
Hi, I've been reading the new IndexedDB spec as published here: http://www.w3.org/TR/IndexedDB/ My first impression is that this simpler than WebSimpleDB, but not too simple. I'm happy to see detached readers being mentioned. There's one other piece of the concurrency story that could be useful.

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Dmitry Titov wrote: > Nobody proposed locking the file. Sorry for being unclear if that sounds > like it. Basically it's all about timestamps. > As Chris proposed earlier, a read operation can grab the timestamp of the > file before and after reading its content a

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Darin Fisher
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Dmitry Titov wrote: > Nobody proposed locking the file. Sorry for being unclear if that sounds > like it. Basically it's all about timestamps. > > As Chris proposed earlier, a read operation can grab the timestamp of the > file before and after reading its conten

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Dmitry Titov
Nobody proposed locking the file. Sorry for being unclear if that sounds like it. Basically it's all about timestamps. As Chris proposed earlier, a read operation can grab the timestamp of the file before and after reading its content and throw exception if the timestamps do not match. This is pre

Re: CfC: to publish FPWD of Selectors API Level 2; deadline January 15

2010-01-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
Lachlan, On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:48 AM, ext Lachlan Hunt wrote: Since the CfC ends later today and there's been no objections and presumably won't be, I've prepared the draft for publication as FPWD, and rewritten the status of the document and done the PubRules checks. I just need to know what t

Re: CfC: to publish FPWD of Selectors API Level 2; deadline January 15

2010-01-15 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Arthur Barstow wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish the First Public Working Draft (FPWD) of the Selectors API Level 2 spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/selectors-api2/ As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be ass

Re: Restart the group

2010-01-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
Rokesh, On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:43 AM, ext Rokesh Jankie wrote: I just found out that this group is very interesting and it stopped because of several reasons in 2007. Perhaps you are thinking of the Web Applications Format (WAF) WG and Web API WG which both ended in 2008 (and as Lachan indic

Re: Restart the group

2010-01-15 Thread Rokesh Jankie
I'm sorry for my mistake then. I would like to participate. Nice to hear the the group is much alive and active. Thanks for the note. Regards, Rokesh Jankie --- QAFE powered by experience & quality Website : http://www.qafe.com/ Youtube : http://youtube.com/qafechannel LinkedIn: http://www.lin

Re: Restart the group

2010-01-15 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Rokesh Jankie wrote: I just found out that this group is very interesting and it stopped because of several reasons in 2007. You must be mistaken. This group is very much alive and active. While the Web API WG charter ended in 2007, the Web Apps group was rechartered [1], merging the Web AP

Restart the group

2010-01-15 Thread Rokesh Jankie
Hi there, I just found out that this group is very interesting and it stopped because of several reasons in 2007. We are in 2010 now and I think the momentum is there for declarative application development. We have a proposal and want to make it to an open specification. The question: how to con

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: > > I don't think we should worry about underlying file changes. > > If the app wants to cut a file into parts and copy them separately, then > > perhaps the app should first copy the f

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: > I don't think we should worry about underlying file changes. > If the app wants to cut a file into parts and copy them separately, then > perhaps the app should first copy the file into a private area.  (I'm > presuming that one day, we'll ha

Re: File API: Blob and underlying file changes.

2010-01-15 Thread Darin Fisher
I don't think we should worry about underlying file changes. If the app wants to cut a file into parts and copy them separately, then perhaps the app should first copy the file into a private area. (I'm presuming that one day, we'll have the concept of a chroot'd private file storage area for a w