Re: [IndexedDB] Dynamic Transactions (WAS: Lots of small nits and clarifying questions)

2010-04-20 Thread Nikunj Mehta
On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Nikunj Mehta nik...@o-micron.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: 2) In the spec, dynamic transactions and the

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Seaborn
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:53 PM, João Eiras jo...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:09:14 +0200, Mark Seaborn mseab...@chromium.org wrote: Is there any plan for involving the user in storage allocation decisions for IndexedDB? [1] For comparison, the WebStorage API [2] doesn't have

Re: [IndexedDB] Bug/enhancement requests

2010-04-20 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
There is not really a single detailed W3C policy that's been mandated for processing spec feedback. It's basically up to each individual working group to determine the specific details for what works best for them. That said, the HTML WG has a documented Decision Policy document that outlines the

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Tyler Close
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said before. I'd be interested in implementing UMP in firefox if we can come  up with a reasonable API for using it. I.e. a separate

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 4/20/2010 4:11 AM, Mark Seaborn wrote: 1) It doesn't allow a web app to ask for a storage allocation up front, before it starts to consume the storage. Why does that matter? 2) In Opera, the quota can only be increased in multiples of about 15, so it takes three prompts to get up into the

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said before. I'd be interested in implementing UMP in firefox if we can come  up with a reasonable API for using it. I.e. a separate

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said before. I'd be interested in implementing UMP in firefox

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Tyler Close wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said before. I'd be interested in implementing UMP in firefox if we can come up

[Bug 9562] New: Opening a database with a different description is underspecified

2010-04-20 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9562 Summary: Opening a database with a different description is underspecified Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All URL:

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said before. I'd be interested in implementing UMP in firefox if we can come

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Tyler Close
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Tyler Close wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: As I've said

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Tyler Close
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:38:54 +0900, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote:

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Orlow
This way of thinking is incompatible with offline web apps. If I'm offline and I send and email, it needs to stay queued up to send until I'm reconnected to the internet. Anyone wanting to debate whether or not the UA should be free to clean up persistent storage without asking the user should

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Michael Nordman
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Nikunj Mehta nik...@o-micron.com wrote: As I see it, there's no such thing as permanent storage for Web browser managed data. Even if a site expresses preferences that it would like to keep its data resident for a long time, there cannot be a guarantee for the

FileReader question about ProgressEvent

2010-04-20 Thread Jian Li
According to the spec, we will dispatch a progress event for a read method. But per the Progress Events 1.0 spec, the attributes loaded and total are defined as unsigned long. interface ProgressEvent : events::Event { ... readonly attribute unsigned long loaded;

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 4/19/2010 10:08 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Mark Seabornmseab...@chromium.org wrote: 2) It is too permissive because it enforces no limit on the amount of space a web app can use: A web app from example.com can create an unlimited number of puppet

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Nikunj Mehta nik...@o-micron.com wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Shawn Wilsher sdwi...@mozilla.comwrote: On 4/20/2010 3:19 PM,

Re: [IndexedDB] Granting storage quotas

2010-04-20 Thread Michael Nordman
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Nikunj Mehta nik...@o-micron.com wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: This way of thinking is incompatible with offline web apps. If I'm offline and I send and email, it needs to stay queued up to send until I'm reconnected to the

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:47:06 +0900, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: I kinda hate the boolean argument. I would rather have a syntax where the intent is obvious from the source code. A boolean is not very self- documenting. In fact I can't even remember right now whether true or

Re: UMP / CORS: Implementor Interest

2010-04-20 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:27:10 +0900, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't it be made exactly like UMP? All of the requirements in UMP have been discussed at length and in great detail on this list by some highly qualified people. The current UMP spec reflects all of that