RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread David Rogers
The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the browser vendors want their products really to be seen as compatible with the Web application space (as compared to just dynamic Web pages), they will support the

Transferring File* to WebApps — Proposed path forward

2010-06-16 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi all, thanks a lot for this useful and frank conversation. Based on this input and stuff I've been ruminating over, I'd like to propose the following arrangement (in detail, so bear with me for stating some parts that may be obvious). • File/FileReader stays in WebApps. It defines all that

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - Proposed path forward

2010-06-16 Thread David Rogers
Hi Robin, It might be worth hanging on for Arun's response to my email this morning before we get to a resolution on this. Also on the proposed naming, the term 'Trusted' has a very specific meaning and it could create ambiguities - i.e. we would not be defining a Trusted File System Access.

Re: CfC: Candidate Recommendation of XMLHttpRequest; deadline June 30

2010-06-16 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:03:05 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The Editor's Draft does not yet include CR exit criteria. I would expect the criteria to be similar to our previous CRs i.e. require a thorough test suite and at least two implementations that pass all tests. (We

[widgets] Draft agenda for 17 June 2010 voice conf

2010-06-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the June 17 Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion before the VC on all of the agenda topics via public-webapps is encouraged (as it can result in a shortened meeting). Please address Open/Raised Issues and Open Actions before the meeting:

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps — Proposed path forward

2010-06-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 6/16/10 6:56 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: WDYT? Robin - your proposal seems reasonable to me. -Art Barstow

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan
All, I think this touches on almost everything, including the File* topic currently being discussed.. please, ask yourselves: Why are why are developers building extensions to create client side applications? Are they not still running in the browsers? why have they been pushed outside of

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps — Proposed path forward

2010-06-16 Thread Jonas Sicking
SOLD to the bearded french dude! Seriously though, this sounds great. / Jonas On Wednesday, June 16, 2010, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi all, thanks a lot for this useful and frank conversation. Based on this input and stuff I've been ruminating over, I'd like to propose the

Re: [IndexedDB] Changing the default overwrite behavior of Put

2010-06-16 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 6/16/2010 9:43 AM, Nikunj Mehta wrote: There are three theoretical modes as you say. However, the second mode does not exist in practice. If you must overwrite, then you know that the record exists and hence don't need to specify that option. To be clear, you are saying that there are only

Re: [IndexedDB] Changing the default overwrite behavior of Put

2010-06-16 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Nikunj Mehta nik...@o-micron.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Shawn Wilsher wrote: On 6/16/2010 9:43 AM, Nikunj Mehta wrote: There are three theoretical modes as you say. However, the second mode does not exist in practice. If you must overwrite,

Re: [IndexedDB] Changing the default overwrite behavior of Put

2010-06-16 Thread Mikeal Rogers
I don't have an opinion about addOrModify but in the Firefox build I'm messing with the cursor has an update method that I find highly useful and efficient. -Mikeal On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Nikunj Mehta

Re: [IndexedDB] Changing the default overwrite behavior of Put

2010-06-16 Thread Nikunj Mehta
When you get to the cursor, the object already existed. This is the case where the update occurs on an existing object and put means put because it already exists. On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: I don't have an opinion about addOrModify but in the Firefox build I'm

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Arun Ranganathan
Hi David, Thanks for your questions. On 6/16/10 2:16 AM, David Rogers wrote: The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the browser vendors want their products really to be seen as compatible with

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread David Rogers
Hi Arun, -Original Message- From: Arun Ranganathan [mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: 16 June 2010 19:48 On 6/16/10 2:16 AM, David Rogers wrote: The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the

Re: [whatwg] Do we really need a device element?

2010-06-16 Thread James Salsman
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/14/10, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: ... I [had been earlier] persuaded that the device element is unnecessary, given recent announcements for the input type=file accept=...;source=... type

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 6/16/10 12:59 PM, David Rogers wrote: [DAVID] I was actually referring to: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/privacy-reqs/ (As mentioned in previous correspondence, I think securing an API and privacy can be decoupled, but both are very relevant topics). I've read that document and think that

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps — Proposed path forward

2010-06-16 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I am also happy with this suggested approach. - Maciej On Jun 16, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: SOLD to the bearded french dude! Seriously though, this sounds great. / Jonas On Wednesday, June 16, 2010, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi all, thanks a lot for this

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Eric Uhrhane
Sorry about the delay in response; I've been out of the office for the past 10 days. [Also, sorry Bryan--I forgot to reply-all.] On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3...@att.com wrote: I am not meaning to be unfair, perhaps the message is not coming through clearly

[Bug 9768] Indexes should hang off of objectStores rather than the IDBDatabaseRequest/Sync objects

2010-06-16 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9768 Nikunj Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 9563] The events passed to the event handlers are underspecified

2010-06-16 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9563 Nikunj Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED

[Bug 9769] IDBObjectStoreRequest/Sync.put should be split into 3 methods

2010-06-16 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9769 Nikunj Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED