Re: Widget Updates Standard

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Wilson
Hi Christoph, On 17 Jun 2010, at 14:26, Christoph Storm wrote: Hi, I am currently very busy reading your papers about W3C Widgets because I am writing my master thesis about Widgets. The title is Device interoperable data visualization using standard W3C Widgets - the important word is

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Eric, Based upon your responses there are a couple of additional things we need to check on, but I'll look deeper into the current specs for the things that should already be supported. The additional things are: - how to safely grant access outside the sandbox, which depends upon ability to

[IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi All, One thing that (if I'm reading the spec correctly) is currently impossible is to create multi-valued keys. Consider for example an object store containing objects like: { firstName: Sven, lastName: Svensson, age: 57 } { firstName: Benny, lastName: Andersson, age: 63 } { firstName: Benny,

[IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi All, One thing that we've talked a bit about at mozilla is about in which order asynchronous events should fire. I.e. for code like: results = []; trans = db.transaction([mystore]); trans.objectStore(mystore).get(1).onsuccess = function(e) { results.push(e.result); }

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Mikeal Rogers
The complex keys are how we do this in CouchDB as well. But, again, the sorting algorithm needs to be well defined in order for it work. http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/View_collation#Collation_Specification Most pertinent to your example is how arrays of varying length might be ordered, for

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mikeal Rogers mikeal.rog...@gmail.com wrote: The complex keys are how we do this in CouchDB as well. But, again, the sorting algorithm needs to be well defined in order for it work. http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/View_collation#Collation_Specification Most

RE: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Pablo Castro
+1 on composite keys in general. The alternative to the proposal below would be to have the actual key path specification include multiple members (e.g. db.createObjectStore(foo, [a, b])). I like the proposal below as well, I just wonder if having the key path specification (that's external to

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Mikeal Rogers
Reading back over my email is sounds opposing and that wasn't my intention, it was a long way of saying +1 and giving an explanation for why we went with the same approach in CouchDB. -Mikeal On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM,

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
I didn't take it as opposing at all. I figured you'd like it as I based it on your description of how you do it in CouchDB ;-) I just wanted to make sure that we nail down all the details, including the sorting order, so if you see anything wrong definitely point it out! / Jonas On Fri, Jun 18,

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Mikeal Rogers
The biggest hole I see, even larger than sorting other types, is what we use for string comparisons. In CouchDB we use the unicode collation algorithm which is heavy but very well defined and works across various localizations. -Mikeal On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Jonas Sicking

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Pablo Castro pablo.cas...@microsoft.com wrote: +1 on composite keys in general. The alternative to the proposal below would be to have the actual key path specification include multiple members (e.g. db.createObjectStore(foo, [a, b])). I like the proposal

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
Yes, I think this is orthogonal to the issue of composite keys so I'd rather deal with that in a separate thread. / Jonas On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mikeal Rogers mikeal.rog...@gmail.com wrote: The biggest hole I see, even larger than sorting other types, is what we use for string

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Mikeal Rogers
I would like to see null and bool types in arrays as well. null is useful if it is assured to sort before any other type, bool types are useful if you want to use integers in the same sort as you want bools and therefor could not just use 0 and 1 instead. If you add all these new types (null,

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Friday, June 18, 2010, Mikeal Rogers mikeal.rog...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to see null and bool types in arrays as well. null is useful if it is assured to sort before any other type, bool types are useful if you want to use integers in the same sort as you want bools and therefor

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-06-18 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I think determinism is most important for the reasons you cited. I think advanced, performance concerned apps could deal with either semantics you mentioned, so the key would be to pick whatever is best for the normal case. I'm leaning towards thinking firing in order is the best way to go

Re: [IndexedDB] Multi-value keys

2010-06-18 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Another possible meaning for arrays is allowing someone to insert multiple values into an index that point to one object store. For example: { names: [Sarah, Jessica, Parker], ...} { names: [Bono], ...} { names: [Jonas, Sicking], ...} Then I could look up Sicking inside an index with a keyPath

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-06-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I think determinism is most important for the reasons you cited.  I think advanced, performance concerned apps could deal with either semantics you mentioned, so the key would be to pick whatever is best for the normal

Re: [IndexedDB] Computed indexes

2010-06-18 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Hi All, We've debated a bit use cases like storing objects like: { name: Elvis, born: January 8, 1935, died: August 16, 1977 } { name: Gustav III, born: 24 January 1746, died: 29 March 1792 } And create an index based

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-06-18 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I think determinism is most important for the reasons you cited. I think advanced, performance concerned apps could deal with either semantics you