Re: [IndexedDB] Compound and multiple keys

2011-03-09 Thread Keean Schupke
Getting pgsql people involved sounds a great idea. Having some more people to argue for formalised and standardised database APIs like SQL, and experience with relational operations and optimisation would be good (That is an assumption on my part, but then they are writing PostgreSQL not CouchDB).

Re: [IndexedDB] Compound and multiple keys

2011-03-09 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Keean/Charles: I definitely think the more people involved the better, but let's not get too hung up on the specifics of PostgreSQL, BDB, etc. Our goal here should be to make a great API for web developers while balancing practical considerations like how difficult it'll be to implement and/or

Widget URI tests

2011-03-09 Thread Bryan Sullivan
Hi all, I¹m working to develop some widget URI tests. I notice there is nothing yet linked from the pubstatus page. I¹ve attached a widget which performs one simple test: verify if the window¹s location.protocol attribute is ³widget:². This was modeled upon the widget interface tests. It passes

Re: [IndexedDB] Compound and multiple keys

2011-03-09 Thread Keean Schupke
I have already said I have no specific concerns regarding this change. Its difficult to predict problems that will emerge when people actually try and use an API. That's why there are so many bad APIs out there. One way to mitigate this risk is to look at well used existing APIs (in languages like

Re: Overview of W3C technologies for mobile Web applications

2011-03-09 Thread Dominique Hazael-Massieux
Hi Charles, Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 21:14 -0800, Charles Pritchard a écrit : InkML is a development relevant to mobile Web. Tablets and other input-rich devices are gaining in acceptance (and becoming easier to purchase). InkML is one of the few specs to put forward both a stream-based and

Re: [FileAPI] Why is FileList a sequence?

2011-03-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:47 +0100, Arun Ranganathan a...@mozilla.com wrote: Do you disagree that FileList should be a sequence parametrized type? I think the construct of a parametrized type makes a lot of sense. But it should work like the types we have to date, so that NodeList,

Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Ian, Leigh, Dimitri, All, On March 11, the agenda of the so-called Hypertext Coordination Group [HCG] will include XBL [XBL] to continue related discussions they had during their Feb 11 call [Feb-11-Mins]. I wasn't present at that call but based on those meeting minutes and what Leigh said

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Olli Pettay
On 03/09/2011 04:14 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Ian, Leigh, Dimitri, All, On March 11, the agenda of the so-called Hypertext Coordination Group [HCG] will include XBL [XBL] to continue related discussions they had during their Feb 11 call [Feb-11-Mins]. I wasn't present at that call but based on

RE: publish Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events spec; deadline March 7

2011-03-09 Thread Adrian Bateman
Microsoft supports this. From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Barstow Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:08 AM To: public-webapps Subject: CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events spec; deadline March 7 Given no comments

RE: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline March 7

2011-03-09 Thread Adrian Bateman
Apologies for missing the March 7 deadline. We tried to carry out a detailed pre-Last Call review and have the following feedback. Microsoft would like to discuss these points before moving the Last Call. Thanks, Adrian. Feedback on latest draft of Web Workers Based on our understanding of

RE: to stop work on Programmable HTTP Caching and Serving spec; deadline March 10

2011-03-09 Thread Adrian Bateman
Microsoft supports this CfC. From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Barstow Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:26 AM To: public-webapps Cc: Mark Nottingham; Julian Reschke; Nikunj Mehta Subject: CfC: to stop work on Programmable HTTP Caching

Re: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web Workers; deadline March 7

2011-03-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Adrian - the timing of your email is unfortunate. The publication process has already started so we will consider your comments as LC comments. -Art Barstow On Mar/9/2011 9:58 AM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: Apologies for missing the March 7 deadline. We tried to carry out a detailed pre-Last

Re: [FileAPI] Why is FileList a sequence?

2011-03-09 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 3/9/11 7:12 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:47 +0100, Arun Ranganathan a...@mozilla.com wrote: Do you disagree that FileList should be a sequence parametrized type? I think the construct of a parametrized type makes a lot of sense. But it should work like the types

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
This email is written as the position of several Chrome engineers working in this problem area at Google, though not Google's official position. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: * What is the latest implementation status of the XBL2 CR [XBL2-CR] and

[Bug 12272] New: Improve section on DNS spoofing attacks to address user attacks

2011-03-09 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12272 Summary: Improve section on DNS spoofing attacks to address user attacks Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: This email is written as the position of several Chrome engineers working in this problem area at Google, though not Google's official position. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com

Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers

2011-03-09 Thread Chris Marrin
On Mar 7, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 3/7/11 8:55 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: I'd expect CanvasPixelArray to allow optimizations that ArrayBuffer doesn't, since the implementation can use the native surface format, translating to RGBA for the script transparently. This can matter

Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers

2011-03-09 Thread Chris Marrin
On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 3/7/11 8:55 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: I'd expect CanvasPixelArray to allow optimizations that ArrayBuffer doesn't, since the implementation can use the native surface

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:14:48 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: * Which members of WebApps want to continue with the XML-based version of XBL2 as codified in the XBL2 CR? If you are groupin this , what firm commitments can you make to push the spec along the REC track? Would you

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: * What is the latest implementation status of the XBL2 CR [XBL2-CR] and Hixie's September 2010 version [XBL-ED] (previously referred to as XBL2-cutdown)? I'm not aware of any new developments on either front. * Which members of WebApps want to

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Leigh L Klotz Jr
Here's my best understanding of the ansers to these questions from the Forms WG perspective: We continue to cheer for the development of a component system for the HTML5 stack, as it will make things easier for end-user authors and for framework developers, whether they choose to express

Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers

2011-03-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 3/9/11 1:54 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: Any system with memory protection can interrupt on write, which makes copy-on-write very close to free, as long as you can page-align the buffer. That's a pretty serious caveat, though. And you're assuming that memory meta-operations like set up a

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 3/9/11 1:56 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: I do not think the XML-based version makes sense anymore. It's too complex and has always felt a bit awkward. A set of extensions to HTML or CSS would make more sense. I really quite liked the idea of using CSS and having some way of writing markup in

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Cameron McCormack
Arthur Barstow: * Should the WG pursue Dimitri Glazkov's Component Model proposal [Component]? If yes, who is willing to commit to work on that spec? I promised Dmitri some use cases from the SVG WG’s perspective, but haven’t managed to get to working on these yet. Whatever solution we have in

Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers

2011-03-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 3/9/11 1:54 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: Any system with memory protection can interrupt on write, which makes copy-on-write very close to free, as long as you can page-align the buffer. That's a pretty serious caveat,

Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
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Re: Moving XBL et al. forward

2011-03-09 Thread Cameron McCormack
Cameron McCormack:  svg …    star cx=100 cy=100 points=5/  /svg Tab Atkins Jr.: svg x-star cx=100 cy=100 points=5/ /svg Or that. :) I have the feeling that we don’t have agreed upon rules on how authors are allowed to extend the platform. Whatever we deem is the “proper” way for

Component Model is not an Isolation Model

2011-03-09 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Greetings, fellow Web-Platform-o-nauts, Summary: We need a proper Isolation Model for the Web. Component Model ain't it. Art's email prodded me to condensate some of brain ether accumulated while looking at the use cases. Here's some for ya. After a productive discussion with the Caja folks and

Re: Component Model is not an Isolation Model

2011-03-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 3/9/11 7:30 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: From the perspective of the component, the isolation is unfairly punishing -- you can't use the outside DOM or even DOM element on which you're hoisted, you can't add methods to it, and you have to always imagine the membrane in order to build a proper

Re: Component Model is not an Isolation Model

2011-03-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 3/9/11 10:29 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: This is sort of a requirement for being able to use components that you don't trust to arbitrarily mess with your DOM though, no? We already have very complicated security mechanisms for frames, and the history of the Web tells us that it's really