Re: Offline Web Applications status

2011-04-01 Thread Felix Halim
The main requirement for a webapp (or a website) to use App Cache, is AJAX capability. Without AJAX, the webapp is just like offline STATIC application (which is boring). So, in order to use App Cache, developers must re-design their websites so that it is AJAX enabled (which requires too much

Re: RfC: WebApps Testing Process

2011-04-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: 3. http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Approval - how to start a test case review, approval process, how to update an approved test case It looks like every submitted test suite must undergo a CfC, and so must every

Re: Mail List Etiquette [Was: WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?]

2011-04-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Hear. I am starting to think that Mozilla will step up and provide an embedding of SQLite, even if it has to only think of it as such. It will have to. People would rather use a working database than something

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: No, it actually sounds like a success; it prevented a specification being created which would have been tied to a particular implementation, no matter how widely-deployed. For comparison, IE6 was very widely deployed

Re: Mail List Etiquette [Was: WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?]

2011-04-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Yes I agree, as has been said before on this list, that comments are always welcome and let's all please make sure those comments are consistent with the principles to which I referred. -Art Barstow On Apr/1/2011 12:21 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Arthur

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 4/1/2011 5:40 AM, Nathan Kitchen wrote: Are there any browser vendor representatives on the mailing list who would care to comment on the criteria for implementing something akin to Keean's RelationalDBhttps://github.com/keean/RelationalDB idea? What would need to be in place to start work

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Shawn Wilsher
On 4/1/2011 9:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: IE6 is closed-source software written for a single platform. SQLite is in the public domain, works for all major operating systems and lots of minor ones, and is already used (I think?) by every major browser except IE. That makes all the difference.

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: No, it actually sounds like a success; it prevented a specification being created which would have been tied to a particular implementation, no

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/1/2011 3:39 PM, ext Glenn Maynard wrote: If SQLite was to be used as a web standard, I'd hope that it wouldn't show up in a spec as simply do what SQLite does, but as a complete spec of SQLite's behavior. FYI, the Web SQL Database NOTE says: [[

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: Lastly, some vendors have expressed unwillingness to embed SQLite for legal reasons. Embedding other peoples code definitely exposes you to risk of copyright and patent lawsuits. While I can't say that I fully agree with this

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Creating such a spec would be a formidable task, of course. Indeed. One that the SQL community has failed in doing so far. And they have a lot more experience with SQL than we do. That suggests a very different rationale

[Bug 12321] Add compound keys to IndexedDB

2011-04-01 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12321 Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: How to standardize new Offline Web app features? [Was Re: Offline Web Applications status]

2011-04-01 Thread Michael Nordman
Hi Art, Please don't assume I know how the w3c works. I'm not subscribed to the public-html list and honestly don't have a good understanding of which list is for what. I consider the feature set provided in by the Application Cache to harmonize with other topics discussed on the public-webapps

Re: How to standardize new Offline Web app features? [Was Re: Offline Web Applications status]

2011-04-01 Thread Nathan
Michael Nordman wrote: Hi Art, Please don't assume I know how the w3c works. I'm not subscribed to the public-html list and honestly don't have a good understanding of which list is for what. I consider the feature set provided in by the Application Cache to harmonize with other topics

Selectors API IDL Issues

2011-04-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Hi, Presently, the IDL in Selectors API defines the NodeSelector interface using [Supplemental, NoInterfaceObject]. I'm not quite sure why I have supplemental in there, but it seems to be left over from an old edit that should have been removed, since NodeSelector is not a pre-existing

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Keean Schupke
Hi Shawn I would be interested in this. What would need to be done to make this a Firefox plugin? I've done XPCOM stuff before in xulrunner if that's any help. Cheers, Keean On Apr 1, 2011 6:09 PM, Shawn Wilsher sdwi...@mozilla.com wrote: On 4/1/2011 5:40 AM, Nathan Kitchen wrote: Are there

Re: Selectors API IDL Issues

2011-04-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/1/11 4:51 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: [Supplemental] interface Element { Element querySelector(in DOMString selectors, in optional any ... } This adds another method to Element.prototype [NoInterfaceObject] interface NodeSelector { Element querySelector(in DOMString selectors, in optional

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: On Apr/1/2011 3:39 PM, ext Glenn Maynard wrote: If SQLite was to be used as a web standard, I'd hope that it wouldn't show up in a spec as simply do what SQLite does, but as a complete spec of SQLite's behavior. FYI, the Web SQL Database NOTE

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: First of all, what should we do once the SQLite team releases a new version which has some modifications in its SQL dialect? We generally always need to embed the latest

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I don't find this compelling, because it assumes that the release methodology of SQLite is fixed in stone. It would be incredibly rude of us to force an independent team of developers to change development practices for our

Re: Selectors API IDL Issues

2011-04-01 Thread Cameron McCormack
Lachlan Hunt: [Supplemental] interface Element { Element querySelector(in DOMString selectors, in optional any ... } This adds another method to Element.prototype [NoInterfaceObject] interface NodeSelector { Element querySelector(in DOMString selectors, in optional any ... };

Re: [WebSQL] Any future plans, or has IndexedDB replaced WebSQL?

2011-04-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Friday, April 1, 2011, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: I don't find this compelling, because it assumes that the release methodology of SQLite is fixed in stone. It would be incredibly rude of us to force an