Re: Quota API and WebApps [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-12-13 Thread Kinuko Yasuda
Hi Arthur, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote: Hi IanF, All, Following up on Quota API vis-à-visCharterChanges wiki [1] ... Does the group want to add Quota API to the group's charter? If yes, where is a draft/strawman proposal? We have an early

Re: [XHR] responseType json

2011-12-13 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@sencha.com wrote: There's no feeding (re: streaming) of data to a parser, it's buffered until the state is DONE (readyState == 4) and then an XML doc is created upon the first access to responseXML or response.  Same will go for the JSON

Re: Proposed Specification for find/findAll/matches

2011-12-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-12-12 17:57, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/12/11 6:07 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Given a selector list as input to the method, trim whitespace and then for each complex selector, run the first step that applies: (Note: if the selector list is , then there are 0 complex selectors in the list

Re: HTML Speech XG Completes, seeks feedback for eventual standardization

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Dan, WebApps already has a relatively large number of specs in progress (see [PubStatus]) and the group has agreed to add some additional specs (see [CharterChanges]). As such, please provide a relatively specific proposal about the features/specs you and other proponents would like to

Fwd: Re: Quota API and WebApps [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
As IanF mentioned before, Google would like to add a Quota API to WebApps' charter and Kinuko has now provided a link to a document that provides some details about this API: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Quota As such, this is a Call for Consensus to add this API to WebApps' charter (see

CfC: add Quota API to WebApps' charter; deadline December 20

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Subject corrected ... On 12/13/11 7:22 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: As IanF mentioned before, Google would like to add a Quota API to WebApps' charter and Kinuko has now provided a link to a document that provides some details about this API: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Quota As such, this

Re: HTML Speech XG Completes, seeks feedback for eventual standardization

2011-12-13 Thread Dan Burnett
Thanks for the info, Art. To be clear, I personally am *NOT* proposing adding any specs to WebApps, although others might. My email below as a Chair of the group is merely to inform people of this work and ask for feedback. I expect that your information will be useful for others who might

[XHR]

2011-12-13 Thread magttek

postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Rick Waldron
Following the recent blog post http://updates.html5rocks.com/2011/12/Transferable-Objects-Lightning-Fastand subsequent Twitter discussion regarding changes to the parameter list of: Worker.prototype.postMessage( message [, transfer ] ) [1] DedicatedWorkerGlobalScope void

[widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, The Widgets DigSig spec [W-DigSig] has been sitting in PR for over 4 months now, blocked on the Elliptic Curve PAG [ECC-PAG]. AFAICT, this PAG has just started its unspecified length Fishing Expedition seeking some unspecified level of funds to pay for some type of analysis that will

[widgets] Widget Interface is a W3C Candidate Recommendation; Call for Implementations

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
A Candidate Recommendation of the Widget Interface spec was published today: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-widgets-apis-20111213/ If you have any implementation feedback, please send it to the public-webapps mail list.

Re: HTML Speech XG Completes, seeks feedback for eventual standardization

2011-12-13 Thread Glen Shires
We at Google believe that a scripting-only (Javascript) subset of the API defined in the Speech XG Incubator Group Final Report [1] is of appropriate scope for consideration by the WebApps WG. A scripting-only subset supports the majority of the use-cases and samples in the XG proposal.

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Rick Waldron
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Dmitry Lomov dslo...@chromium.org wrote: Hi Rick, here are some clarifications. There were many (long!) discussions on public-webapps about the new signature for postMessage: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/thread.html

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Dmitry Lomov
Hi Rick, here are some clarifications. There were many (long!) discussions on public-webapps about the new signature for postMessage: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/thread.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/0304.html

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Dmitry Lomov
(resending to list - Rick, sorry if you get this twice) On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Dmitry Lomov dslo...@chromium.org wrote: window.webkitPostMessage(msg, transferables) does not really exist (it is an

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote: I'm unable to find documentation or discussion that would clarify the rationale of over-using and over-loading the postMessage Identifier; It's not strange that there are differences between methods on completely

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 12/13/11 11:11 AM, Dmitry Lomov wrote: worker.postMessage({p:port, ab:arrayBuffer}, [post, arrayBuffer]) work. Therefore this extension to postMessage semantics is both backwards-compatible and consistent. On the receiving side, the 'ports' property of event object will still contain

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Rick Waldron
Dmitry, Thanks for taking the time to provide these references and resources Rick

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Dmitry Lomov
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: On 12/13/11 11:11 AM, Dmitry Lomov wrote: worker.postMessage({p:port, ab:arrayBuffer}, [post, arrayBuffer]) work. Therefore this extension to postMessage semantics is both backwards-compatible and consistent. On the

Re: postMessage is the new wtf

2011-12-13 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: On 12/13/11 11:11 AM, Dmitry Lomov wrote: worker.postMessage({p:port, ab:arrayBuffer}, [post, arrayBuffer]) work. Therefore this extension to postMessage semantics is both backwards-compatible and consistent. On the

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-13 Thread Philippe Le Hegaret
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 13:14 -0500, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi All, The Widgets DigSig spec [W-DigSig] has been sitting in PR for over 4 months now, blocked on the Elliptic Curve PAG [ECC-PAG]. AFAICT, this PAG has just started its unspecified length Fishing Expedition seeking some

[Bug 15094] When creating a worker, it should be possible to assign some arguments to the constructor, or pass an init object like so: var worker = new Worker(someurl.js, { someData: 1234 }); Th

2011-12-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15094 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson i...@hixie.ch changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 15141] DedicatedWorkerGlobalScope IDL formatting is broken

2011-12-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15141 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson i...@hixie.ch changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[stream-api] Editor's Draft for Streams API

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Bateman
Following the discussion we had at TPAC [1], we have uploaded our draft as an editor's draft to Mercurial: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm This is just a starting point for discussion and we're looking forward to incorporating feedback as we move forward. We know

[FileAPI] Blob protocol version - is this needed?

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Bateman
The current spec defines the Blob Protocol Version [1]. Our current implementation doesn't require a protocol version and the way protocol handlers are defined in Internet Explorer does require this. I don't know if this is ever exposed in the web platform. The spec says that this should be

[FileAPI] Length of the opaque string for blob URLs

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Bateman
The current spec requires the opaque string in Blob URLs to be at least 36 characters in length [1]. Our implementation doesn't currently use a UUID and the length of the string is shorter than 36 characters. While I have no problem with the recommendation to use UUIDs in the spec, since it isn't

[FileAPI] Remove readAsBinaryString?

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Bateman
Another topic that came up at TPAC was readAsBinaryString [1]. This method predates support for typed arrays in the FileAPI and allows binary data to be read and stored in a string. This is an inefficient way to store data now that we have ArrayBuffer and we'd like to not support this method. At

Re: [FileAPI] Remove readAsBinaryString?

2011-12-13 Thread Charles Pritchard
Seems quite reasonable to me. We've got data URL strings for people who need inefficiency (or portable strings). On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: Another topic that came up at TPAC was readAsBinaryString [1]. This method predates support for typed

[FileAPI] createObjectURL isReusable proposal

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Bateman
At TPAC [1,2] I described our proposal for adding an isReusable flag to createObjectURL. A common pattern we have seen is the need for a blob URL for a single use (for example, loading into an img element) and then revoking the URL. This requires a fair amount of boilerplate code to handle the

Re: [FileAPI] Remove readAsBinaryString?

2011-12-13 Thread Jarred Nicholls
+1 though it won't likely go away from implementations as easily. On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: Seems quite reasonable to me. We've got data URL strings for people who need inefficiency (or portable strings). On Dec 13, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Adrian

Re: [FileAPI] createObjectURL isReusable proposal

2011-12-13 Thread Charles Pritchard
I've seen the same pattern, though mysteriously, running a revoke in the same loop still allows the image to be loaded. I may have made a mistake in reading those source files or it may be a special quirk in the order of event loading. However this is approached, I think it should have firm

Re: Proposed Specification for find/findAll/matches

2011-12-13 Thread Yehuda Katz
This proposal looks really good and matches my expectations. Yehuda Katz (ph) 718.877.1325 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.auwrote: On 2011-12-12 17:57, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 12/12/11 6:07 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Given a selector list as input to the

Re: [FileAPI] createObjectURL isReusable proposal

2011-12-13 Thread Simon Pieters
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:52:04 +0100, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: At TPAC [1,2] I described our proposal for adding an isReusable flag to createObjectURL. A common pattern we have seen is the need for a blob URL for a single use (for example, loading into an img element) and

Barewords in on* attributes, redux (also, find() and company)

2011-12-13 Thread Boris Zbarsky
John Jensen here at Mozilla has been doing some web crawling trying to find what barewords are used in on* attributes. What I have so far as a result is a list of about 1.7 million barewords used across several tens of thousands of pages. If people are interested in the exact methodology, I