Re: [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-01 Thread Ms2ger
On 05/01/2012 02:43 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:57:06 -0700, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@google.com wrote: There aren't any parser changes required. DocumentFragment.innerHTML can still provide the fragment case with a context element and procede normally. It's not obvious

Call for Implementations: HTML5 Web Messaging Candidate Recommendation

2012-05-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
A Candidate Recommendation for HTML5 Web Messaging has been published and as such, this is a Call for Implementations: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-webmessaging-20120501/ The root of the spec's test mirror is: http://test.w3.org/webapps/WebMessaging/tests/. CanIUse reports very broad

Re: Colliding FileWriters

2012-05-01 Thread Eric U
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Eric U er...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Eric U er...@google.com wrote: One working subset

Re: [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Ms2ger ms2...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/01/2012 02:43 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:57:06 -0700, Rafael Weinstein rafa...@google.com wrote: There aren't any parser changes required. DocumentFragment.innerHTML can still provide the fragment

Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Hi, Trident and WebKit both implement beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events. These events need to be spec'ed in http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html Most significantly, those events appear to be fired when UAs try to determine whether copy, cut, and paste menu items in

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 5/1/12 4:52 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Hi, Trident and WebKit both implement beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events. These events need to be spec'ed in http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html Most significantly, those events appear to be fired when UAs try to determine

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Scott González
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: If we _do_ decide to specify them then their interaction with script running inside the events that changes the focus needs to be very carefully specified, since changing focus will change what cut/copy/paste behavior. I

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Charles Pritchard
On May 1, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Scott González scott.gonza...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: If we _do_ decide to specify them then their interaction with script running inside the events that changes the focus needs to be very carefully

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Scott González scott.gonza...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: If we _do_ decide to specify them then their interaction with script running inside the events that changes the focus needs to be very carefully

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 5/1/12 6:07 PM, Scott González wrote: I recall moving focus for paste events in order to figure out what is being pasted. I believe this is common in WYSIWYG editors; a new element is created and focus is moved to that element, then the paste occurs, then the element is inspected for the

[webcomponents] Custom Elements Spec

2012-05-01 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Based on the hallway conversations at the F2F, here are some notes for the upcoming Custom Elements spec. Custom tags vs. is attribute - is attribute is awkward, overly verbose - custom tags introduce local semantics - generally viewed as a rabbit-hole discussion in WebApps scope - Tantek

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 5/1/12 6:07 PM, Scott González wrote: I recall moving focus for paste events in order to figure out what is being pasted. I believe this is common in WYSIWYG editors; a new element is created and focus is moved to that

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 5/1/12 7:51 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: I agree that these events are broken and has very different semantics from other before* events. I would be fine with adding non-normative section describing the current behavior as well (or even mark them as deprecated). I just feel that it needs to be

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Scott González
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: Does the dataTransfer interface available through via paste event address your use cases? http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html#fire-a-clipboard-event

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Scott González
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 5/1/12 6:07 PM, Scott González wrote: I recall moving focus for paste events in order to figure out what is being pasted. I believe this is common in WYSIWYG editors; a new element is created and focus is moved to that

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 5/1/12 8:47 PM, Scott González wrote: I believe I was actually doing this in the paste event. That's a different story entirely. The paste event is already specced in http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html#paste-event (complete with how it interacts with focus changes), and

Re: Clipboard API spec should specify beforecopy, beforecut, and beforepaste events

2012-05-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 5/1/12 7:51 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: I agree that these events are broken and has very different semantics from other before* events. I would be fine with adding non-normative section describing the current behavior as

Re: CORS: joint meeting of WebApps and WebAppSec next week?

2012-05-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Brad, Eric, Thomas - during WebApps' May 1 meeting, the group agreed [1] it would be useful to have a joint meeting with WebAppSec during WebAppSec's May 2 f2f meeting re CORS. Since CORS is on the WebAppSec's May 2 agenda from 9:45-10:15 [2], how about WebAppSec join WebApps during that time

CfC: to stop work on XBL2; deadline May 8

2012-05-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
During WebApps' May 1 discussion about Web Components, a proposal was made ([1],[2]) to stop work on the XBL2 spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do do. If you have any comments or concerns about this CfC, please send them to public-webapps@w3.org by May 8 at the latest. Positive

Re: CfC: to stop work on XBL2; deadline May 8

2012-05-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 1 May 2012, Arthur Barstow wrote: During WebApps' May 1 discussion about Web Components, a proposal was made ([1],[2]) to stop work on the XBL2 spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do do. If this CfC passes, the spec will be republished as a WG Note (as was done with other