CfC: publish LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization, using the following ED as the basis: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/innerhtml/raw-file/tip/index.html This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's decision to request advancement for this

[Bug 23450] Add Specification Note Describing Save As Behavior for File Objects

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23450 Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

Re: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of Progress Events; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Charles McCathie Nevile
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:28:06 +0800, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The Implementation Report [ImplReprt] for the Progress Events CR [CR] indicates the CR's exit criteria have been met. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Proposed Recommendation of Progress

[Bug 23780] Check XMLHttpRequest and Notification don't break given the new script settings object stuff

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23780 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Blocks|

[Bug 21264] referrer source is wrong

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21264 Bug 21264 depends on bug 23780, which changed state. Bug 23780 Summary: Check XMLHttpRequest and Notification don't break given the new script settings object stuff https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23780 What

[Bug 21264] referrer source is wrong

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21264 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

XMLHttpRequest.prototype.responseURL

2013-11-18 Thread Anne van Kesteren
We discussed this briefly during TPAC. Currently you can only get to the response URL if you are loading a document resource. The idea here is to add a new property that exposes the response URL for any resource. It will work the same way as status and statusText, as when those are available we

Re: XMLHttpRequest.prototype.responseURL

2013-11-18 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2013-11-18 17:29, Anne van Kesteren wrote: We discussed this briefly during TPAC. Currently you can only get to the response URL if you are loading a document resource. The idea here is to add a new property that exposes the response URL for any resource. It will work the same way as status

Re: XMLHttpRequest.prototype.responseURL

2013-11-18 Thread David Bruant
Le 18/11/2013 08:29, Anne van Kesteren a écrit : We discussed this briefly during TPAC. Currently you can only get to the response URL if you are loading a document resource. The idea here is to add a new property that exposes the response URL for any resource. It will work the same way as

RE: publish LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Travis Leithead
If possible, I'd like to delay this CfC, for a week--I have some major updates to the ED in-flight, and I want to make sure we base the CfC on the right ED content :-) Hopefully this is workable to the group. Thanks! - From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com] Sent: Monday,

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Charles McCathie Nevile
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:00:00 +0800, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization, using the following ED as the basis: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/innerhtml/raw-file/tip/index.html Please do... cheers

Canceled: CfC: publish LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Art.Barstow
I'll restart the CfC when Travis is ready. From: ext Travis Leitheadmailto:travis.leith...@microsoft.com Sent: ‎11/‎18/‎2013 2:28 PM To: Webapps WGmailto:public-webapps@w3.org Subject: RE: publish LCWD of DOM Parsing and Serialization; deadline November 25 If

[HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
'Sup yo! There was a thought-provoking post by Steve Souders [1] this weekend that involved HTML Imports (yay!) and document.write (boo!), which triggered a Twitter conversation [2], which triggered some conversations with Arv and Alex, which finally erupted in this email. Today, HTML Imports

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread John J Barton
Maybe Steve's example[1] could be on JS rather than on components: System.component(import.php, function(component) { var content = component.content document.getElementById('import-container').appendChild(content.cloneNode(true)); }); Here we mimic System.load(jsId, success, error). Then

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Scott Miles
I love the idea of making HTML imports *not* block rendering as the default behavior So, for what it's worth, the Polymer team has the exact opposite desire. I of course acknowledge use cases where imports are being used to enhance existing pages, but the assertion that this is the primary use

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread John J Barton
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Scott Miles sjmi...@google.com wrote: I love the idea of making HTML imports *not* block rendering as the default behavior So, for what it's worth, the Polymer team has the exact opposite desire. I of course acknowledge use cases where imports are being used

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Scott Miles
I'll assert that the primary use case for JS interacting with HTML components ought to be 'works well with JS modules'. You can happily define modules in your imports, those two systems are friends as far as I can tell. I've said this before, I've yet to hear the counter argument. But if you

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Brian Kardell
Mixed response here... I love the idea of making HTML imports *not* block rendering as the default behavior In terms of custom elements, this creates as a standard, the dreaded FOUC problem about which a whole different group of people will be blogging and tweeting... Right? I don't know that

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Scott Miles
Scott, is that because of what I said above (why polymer has the exact opposite desire)? Yes. Plus some salt from the KISS principle. I feel like it is maybe valuable to think that we should worry about how you express [dependencies] in JS I guess I thought ES6 modules already went through

[HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi All, Largely independently from the thread that Dimitri just started on the sync/async/-ish nature of HTML imports I have a problem with how script execution in the imported document works. Right now it's defined that any script elements in the imported document are run in the scope of the

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Scott Miles
I've made similar comments on various threads, so sorry if you've heard this song before, but here are some basic comments: The HTMLImports we've been working with so far is not primarily about JS, it's about HTML. There are already various ways to modularize JS, including requirejs, other libs,

[Bug 23450] Add Specification Note Describing Save As Behavior for File Objects

2013-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23450 Arun a...@mozilla.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread John J Barton
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Scott Miles sjmi...@google.com wrote: I'll assert that the primary use case for JS interacting with HTML components ought to be 'works well with JS modules'. You can happily define modules in your imports, those two systems are friends as far as I can tell.

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-18 Thread Scott Miles
I believe the primary issue here is 'synchronous with respect to rendering'. Seems like you ignored this issue. See Brian's post. Scott On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM, John J Barton johnjbar...@johnjbarton.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Scott Miles sjmi...@google.com wrote:

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
We share the concern Jonas expressed here as I've repeatedly mentioned on another threads. On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: This has several downsides: * Libraries can easily collide with each other by trying to insert themselves into the global using the

Re: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of Progress Events; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Takeshi Yoshino
two minor comments - add semicolons to lines of the example code in the introduction section? - 2nd paragraph in the conformance section, quote must?

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: We share the concern Jonas expressed here as I've repeatedly mentioned on another threads. On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: This has several downsides: * Libraries can easily collide with

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: In fact, the list of concerns that Jonas listed is specifically addressed by modules. So, my thinking is that why don't we leave imports alone and let the modules solve these problems? HTML Imports is a higher-layer

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-18 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: We share the concern Jonas expressed here as I've repeatedly mentioned on another threads. On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jonas Sicking

RE: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of Progress Events; deadline November 25

2013-11-18 Thread Jungkee Song
From: Takeshi Yoshino [mailto:tyosh...@google.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:48 PM two minor comments - add semicolons to lines of the example code in the introduction section? This might not be an issue but I agree to add them. - 2nd paragraph in the conformance section, quote