Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-14 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 3/13/14 10:59 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: I recently landed a usage counter for window.orientation. It will take some time to roll to Chrome Android stable but hopefully we will find out if window.orientation is actually used a lot. If that's the case and other UA want to

Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-14 Thread Lars Knudsen
What happened to the initiative done to take a holistic view on all orientation related specs and make them seem like they come from the same entity (Device Motion, Media Queries, Orientation Lock, ...)? The confusion grows when we have e.g. different primary orientations (landscape, portrait) -

[admin] Reminder: March 28 is Deadline to register for April 10-11 f2f meeting

2014-03-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject: [admin] Please register for WebApps 10-11 April 2014 f2f meeting; deadline March 28 Resent-Date:Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:51:50 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:50:41 -0500 From: ext Arthur Barstow

indexedDB API grammatical error

2014-03-14 Thread Danillo Paiva
3.1.3 Keys (...) Operations that accept keys must perform as if each key parameter value, in order, is copied *by the by the* structured clone algorithm [HTML5] and the copy is instead used as input to the operation, before proceding with rest of the operation. Link:

Re: [Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 3/13/14 7:43 PM, ext Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Hi, It appears that there is a lot of new features such as CSS regions and shadow DOM that have significant implications on selection API, and we really need a spec. for selection API these specifications can refer to. Thankfully, Aryeh has done a

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 6:44, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote: I am cc'ing Wonsuk and Christophe as Tizen is currently implementing (and shipping?) the API as well; it's even unprefixed. We are also supporting the current API in Crosswalk, but I am OK with the change as most of our current

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 16:09, Jonas Sicking wrote: However it does mean that we need to also have a way to define that orientation should be completely unlocked. This is needed since the manifest spec allows overriding the default unlocked orientation. I.e. it should be possible to use the

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
I agree, and it was also a surprise to me when I first noticed that. I believe Wonsuk might know the history behind that decision. Kenneth On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 6:44, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen wrote: I am cc'ing

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Marcos Caceres
On March 14, 2014 at 9:58:59 AM, Mounir Lamouri (mou...@lamouri.fr) wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 16:09, Jonas Sicking wrote: However it does mean that we need to also have a way to define that orientation should be completely unlocked. This is needed since the manifest spec allows

[admin] Mapping Blink Intent to {Implement,Ship} to Recommendation milestones? [Was: Re: Fwd: [blink-dev] Intent to implement: Push API]

2014-03-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 3/11/14 5:45 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: FYI. For those not used to Blink's process, that doesn't mean the feature is planning to ship yet but Google is working on this. The API we are aiming for is a bit different from what the specification currently describes as mentioned in the original

Re: [admin] Mapping Blink Intent to {Implement,Ship} to Recommendation milestones? [Was: Re: Fwd: [blink-dev] Intent to implement: Push API]

2014-03-14 Thread Peter Beverloo
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote: On 3/11/14 5:45 PM, ext Mounir Lamouri wrote: FYI. For those not used to Blink's process, that doesn't mean the feature is planning to ship yet but Google is working on this. The API we are aiming for is a bit

Re: [gamepad] preventing default/capturing controller

2014-03-14 Thread Vincent Scheib
Perhaps I'm missing some context. What issue are you raising that isn't handled by the gamepad API [1]? [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gamepad/raw-file/default/gamepad.html On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Patrick H. Lauke re...@splintered.co.ukwrote: No takers on the idea of having some form of

Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-14 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 19:07, Lars Knudsen wrote: What happened to the initiative done to take a holistic view on all orientation related specs and make them seem like they come from the same entity (Device Motion, Media Queries, Orientation Lock, ...)? Device Motion is about the device angle

Re: [gamepad] preventing default/capturing controller

2014-03-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 14/03/2014 15:29, Vincent Scheib wrote: Perhaps I'm missing some context. What issue are you raising that isn't handled by the gamepad API [1]? [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gamepad/raw-file/default/gamepad.html The issue is perhaps hypothetical at the moment, but: the spec currently does

Re: [gamepad] preventing default/capturing controller

2014-03-14 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On 3/14/2014 11:36 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On 14/03/2014 15:29, Vincent Scheib wrote: Perhaps I'm missing some context. What issue are you raising that isn't handled by the gamepad API [1]? [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gamepad/raw-file/default/gamepad.html The issue is perhaps

Re: [gamepad] preventing default/capturing controller

2014-03-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 14/03/2014 15:52, Ted Mielczarek wrote: After ruminating, though, my thought was that an explicit API is probably not necessary--if a web page accesses the Gamepad API at all then the browser can relinquish using the controller as navigation to allow the page to do its thing. Yes, that sort

Re: indexedDB API grammatical error

2014-03-14 Thread Joshua Bell
Thanks, fixed. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Danillo Paiva danillo.paiva.tol...@gmail.com wrote: 3.1.3 Keys (...) Operations that accept keys must perform as if each key parameter value, in order, is copied *by the by the* structured clone algorithm [HTML5] and the copy is instead

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
Agreed. any sounds the most descriptive. / Jonas On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On March 14, 2014 at 9:58:59 AM, Mounir Lamouri (mou...@lamouri.fr) wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, at 16:09, Jonas Sicking wrote: However it does mean that we need to also

Re: [Editing] Splitting Selection API Into a Separate Specification

2014-03-14 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mar 14, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 3/13/14 7:43 PM, ext Ryosuke Niwa wrote: Hi, It appears that there is a lot of new features such as CSS regions and shadow DOM that have significant implications on selection API, and we really need a spec. for

[Bug 24703] No easy way to lock to a set of accepted orientations if one UA doesnt support one of them

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24703 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 24695] Allowed orientations should be an enum

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24695 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 24700] Should 'foo' be entirely equivalent to [ 'foo-primary', 'foo-secondary' ]

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24700 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 24699] Reconsider -primary and -secondary orientations

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24699 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 25053] New: Specify clear security requirements

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25053 Bug ID: 25053 Summary: Specify clear security requirements Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 25054] New: Should the API be exposed to non-Mobile?

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25054 Bug ID: 25054 Summary: Should the API be exposed to non-Mobile? Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity:

[Bug 24702] Apply Anne's comments sent in public-webapps

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24702 Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: [screen-orientation] Remove the ability to lock to multiple orientations?

2014-03-14 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Great. I applied those changes to the current ED. It might lack a bit of clarity but I will integrate Promises soon so I will likely revisit the language later. -- Mounir On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, at 5:36, Jonas Sicking wrote: Agreed. any sounds the most descriptive. / Jonas On Fri, Mar 14,

Re: On starting WebWorkers with blob: URLs...

2014-03-14 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: For blob: URLs we agreed to make this pretty explicit: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#originOfBlobURL Unfortunately, scripts don't have origins these days, so this definition doesn't really work. It didn't work since it wasn't

[Bug 25061] New: [Shadow]: Minor grammatical quibble

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25061 Bug ID: 25061 Summary: [Shadow]: Minor grammatical quibble Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: trivial

Re: On starting WebWorkers with blob: URLs...

2014-03-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Arun Ranganathan wrote: On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: For blob: URLs we agreed to make this pretty explicit: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#originOfBlobURL Unfortunately, scripts don't have origins these days, so this definition

Re: Screen Orientation API Spec (from phrasing confusion)

2014-03-14 Thread Bruno Racineux
On 3/13/14 10:59 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: I recently landed a usage counter for window.orientation. It will take some time to roll to Chrome Android stable but hopefully we will find out if window.orientation is actually used a lot. If that's the case and other UA want to