Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-16 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:21:09 +0200, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: The reason for using it was in part that there were people there who were working on dom and not on the (quite high traffic) webapps list which discusses many other thing

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-15 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: > The reason for using it was in part that there were people there who were > working on dom and not on the (quite high traffic) webapps list which > discusses many other things. LKML is a high-traffic list. Maybe webapps was in th

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-14 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:35:58 +0200, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Ojan Vafai wrote: This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe it's time to reconsider that decision? It's the editors of the specs who have the largest say he

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-13 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Ojan Vafai wrote: >This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps >but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe it's time to reconsider that >decision? It's the editors of the specs who have the largest say here IMO. The confusion is not going to go away by changing the pro

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Travis Leithead wrote: > I wouldn’t mind. I’m on both lists anyway. Schepers originally saw it as a > way of scoping DOM3 Events discussions away from the noise on > public-webapps. I’m not sure that’s a real big concern anymore. I don't care either way. To look u

RE: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Travis Leithead
nt: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:10 AM To: Arthur Barstow Cc: espr...@gmail.com; www-dom; public-webapps Subject: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate

www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Ojan Vafai
on in w3.org/TR/) > > -Thanks, AB > > ---- Original Message -------- > Subject:[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document > children > Resent-Date:Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:01:51 + > Resent-From: > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:39:36 -0700 > From: ext

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > >> On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: >> >>> After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions >>> on why we're enforcing the order of the document

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Elliott Sprehn
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: > >> After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions >> on why we're enforcing the order of the document child nodes. >> > > Because otherwise serialization of the result woul

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Elliott Sprehn
Okay, I'll use that one. Both the editors draft and the referenced one are same in this respect though. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > Elliott, All - please use the www-...@w3.org list for DOM4 discussions < > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Public/www-dom/

[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
ml> instead of the version in w3.org/TR/) -Thanks, AB Original Message Subject: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children Resent-Date:Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:01:51 + Resent-From: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:39:36 -0700 From: ext E

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions on why we're enforcing the order of the document child nodes. Because otherwise serialization of the result would be ... very broken? Can we leave the behavior when your document

[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-11 Thread Elliott Sprehn
I'm working on places where Webkit doesn't follow the DOM4 mutation algorithm and one of the bugs is not throwing an exception when a doctype node is inserted after an element in a document (or other permutations of the same situation). https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88682 http://www.w3.o