Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 1/31/14 10:21 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: * Do we want to continue both efforts (and thus reflect this in the charter update)? Given the feedback on this thread, I don't think there is consensus to only focus on one API so I added the Mozilla FileSystem API spec to the set of File

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Charles McCathie Nevile
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:48:30 +0400, Arun Ranganathan a...@mozilla.com wrote: On Feb 4, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:09:53 +0400, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 1/31/14 10:44 AM, ext Ian Clelland wrote: Hi Art, For what it's

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Ian Clelland
The great thing about Cordova is that it doesn't have to be a single platform -- every developer has the power to choose the APIs that they want to use, and every published app is essentially running on its own custom web platform. I wasn't presenting the Cordova data point as we're doing this

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Sebastian Kippe
Hi, In which case, what Cordova does (and more to the point what developers do with it) seems relevant information to consider as we try to find a consensus. For what it’s worth, we’re currently building a mobile app for use with both Cordova and Web browsers. The main use case of our app

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Feb 5, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote: Similarly the issue here is not whether we can make a specification for one or the other approach that *could* be a standard, since it seems we can, but whether one or the other is a clear candidate to be a real standard - i.e. what

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Ian Clelland wrote: The great thing about Cordova is that it doesn't have to be a single platform -- every developer has the power to choose the APIs that they want to use, and every published app is essentially running on its own custom web platform. I wasn't

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-05 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Feb 5, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Sebastian Kippe wrote: For what it’s worth, we’re currently building a mobile app for use with both Cordova and Web browsers. The main use case of our app is caching large video files and playing them back directly from the filesystem. So filesystem URLs are a

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-04 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Feb 4, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:09:53 +0400, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 1/31/14 10:44 AM, ext Ian Clelland wrote: Hi Art, For what it's worth, theFile API: Directories and System is also implemented (and supported)

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-04 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/4/14 11:48 AM, Arun Ranganathan wrote: A web page using the FileSystem API in JavaScript and working in two separate browser implementations seems like a good measure of interoperability A good measure of interop is a test suite that actually tests edge cases (something that a web page

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 1/31/14 10:44 AM, ext Ian Clelland wrote: Hi Art, For what it's worth, theFile API: Directories and System is also implemented (and supported) by Apache Cordova[1]. The implementation is essentially complete for mobile applications on Android, iOS and FireOS, with nearly-complete support

[File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-01-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Eric, Arun, Jonas, All, During the review of the first draft of WebApps' proposed charter extension, Marcos raised (indirectly) a question [1] about the plan for WebApps' various file system APIs and I agreed to followup. We have the two specs that Eric edits: * File API: Writer

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-01-31 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On Jan 31, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi Eric, Arun, Jonas, All, We also have this spec from Arun and Jonas: * FileSystem API http://w3c.github.io/filesystem-api/Overview.html. The last update of the ED was 2-Oct-2013 and this spec has not been published as a TR. My

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Clelland
Hi Art, For what it's worth, the File API: Directories and System is also implemented (and supported) by Apache Cordova[1]. The implementation is essentially complete for mobile applications on Android, iOS and FireOS, with nearly-complete support on Blackberry and Windows Phone. While our

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-01-31 Thread Edward O'Connor
Hi, Art wrote: My understanding is the only implementation of Eric's APIs is Chrome. I do not know the implementation status of Mozilla's spec. If anyone has additional information about the implementation status or plans of either effort, please let us know. With the usual disclaimer that