Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:06 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andrew Welch andrew.j.we...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what I was talking about when I said even thought the XML i18n guidelines say it's bad practice,'. Ahh very sorry, I just saw the email

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-22 Thread Jere.Kapyaho
In the context of the discussion about having a mandatory config file, I proposed to simplify matters even further and have just one config file, with the note that this proposal could be ignored in the interest of time and/or effort. There are pros and cons to both approaches, as Marcos has

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-20 Thread Marcos Caceres
In my previous email, I included a note that said: Note: Some elements marked as not being localizable via xml:lang, such as screenshot and icon elements, are localizable via folder-based content localization. I've thought about it some more, and concluded that screenshot and icon are actually

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-20 Thread SUZANNE Benoit RD-SIRP-ISS
-ftgroup.com From: Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com Reply-To: marc...@opera.com Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:06:31 +0100 To: Andrew Welch andrew.j.we...@gmail.com Cc: jere.kapy...@nokia.com, mark.priest...@vodafone.com, public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [widgets] Further argument for making

[widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Priestley, Mark, VF-Group
Hi Marcos, All, I would like to raise a comment in support of making the configuration document at the root of the widget mandatory. The localisation model currently described by [1] allows for multiple configuration documents; zero or one at the root of the widget and zero or one at the root

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Priestley, Mark, VF-Group mark.priest...@vodafone.com wrote: Hi Marcos, All, I would like to raise a comment in support of making the configuration document at the root of the widget mandatory. The localisation model currently described by [1] allows for

RE: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Priestley, Mark, VF-Group
implementers :( -Original Message- From: marcosscace...@gmail.com [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Caceres Sent: 19 March 2009 14:25 To: Priestley, Mark, VF-Group Cc: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory On Thu

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Andrew Welch andrew.j.we...@gmail.com wrote: Other suggestions are of course welcome! One alternative would be to separate out the non-localisable data into a separate document, eg manifest.xml... But this is also likely to irritate implementers :( No,

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM, jere.kapy...@nokia.com wrote: I still think that more than one config document is the most confusing aspect of this. Having just one (mandatory) config document, with the localized parts tagged with xml:lang attributes would be the simplest. However, as I

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:22 PM,  jere.kapy...@nokia.com wrote: I still think that more than one config document is the most confusing aspect of this. Having just one (mandatory) config document, with the localized parts

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Jere.Kapyaho
I still think that more than one config document is the most confusing aspect of this. Having just one (mandatory) config document, with the localized parts tagged with xml:lang attributes would be the simplest. However, as I understand it, the separate config files were recommended by the W3C

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andrew Welch andrew.j.we...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what I was talking about when I said even thought the XML i18n guidelines say it's bad practice,'. Ahh very sorry, I just saw the email after that containing the code sample, and gmail collapses the

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, jere.kapy...@nokia.com wrote: The reason why the I18N BP document frowns upon this is because if you have the material sent for translation, it might (or most probably will) be translated by different people in different places. So it makes coordination a

Re: [widgets] Further argument for making config.xml mandatory

2009-03-19 Thread Marcos Caceres
Ok, here is my first crack at specifying this...If you prefer to read it in the spec (so you can follow any cross references, etc), then please check out: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#element-based-content-localization [[ ==Element-based Content Localization== This specification defines