Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:32:50 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the TCP headers in the IP packets

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:32:50 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Jonas Sicking wrote: Is anyone ever going to be able to get any useful size data for the headers anyway though? I.e. if we allow headers to be counted as part of the size, is anyone ever going to be able to do that? To be able to do that you'd have to have some sort of out-of-band metadata

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-22 Thread Jonas Sicking
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the TCP headers in the IP packets IMHO. There is a big difference here, an application might not have

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-21 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the TCP headers in the IP packets IMHO. There is a big difference here, an application might not have meaningful access to the latter, but

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-21 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Anne van Kesteren wrote: Yeah, I'd very much prefer the Progress Events specification to handle this so that not all other specifications using the Progress Events specification need to do so. I agree that a protocol agnostic design would be good, but that indeed doesn't preclude saying