RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments

2009-03-27 Thread Marcin Hanclik
To: marc...@opera.com; WebApps WG; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi, One correction to what I wrote: Instead of a) Replace root of the archive with root of the widget I would now suggest a) Replace root of the archive with root

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments

2009-03-27 Thread Frederick Hirsch
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:42 PM To: marc...@opera.com; WebApps WG; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi, One correction to what I wrote: Instead of a) Replace root of the archive with root of the widget I would now

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments

2009-03-27 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: Frederick Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hir...@nokia.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:09 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Frederick Hirsch; marc...@opera.com Caceres; WebApps WG Subject: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments Marcin [removed cross-posting, since my

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Frederick Hirsch
Marcin Thanks, for the careful review. some comment inline [removed cross post, fails anyway] regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:04 PM, ext Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, All, Please find below my - mostly editorial - comments to the latest digsig

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments

2009-03-27 Thread Frederick Hirsch
Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hir...@nokia.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:09 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Frederick Hirsch; marc...@opera.com Caceres; WebApps WG Subject: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft, further comments Marcin [removed cross-posting, since my posting

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Marcin Thanks, for the careful review. some comment inline [removed cross post, fails anyway] regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:04 PM, ext Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, All, Please find below my - mostly

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Hillebrand, Rainer
Dear Marcos, I hope to have less critical comments than in my last feedback email. 1. Section 7.1: change The ds:SignatureMethod algorithm used in the ds:SignatureValue element MUST one of the signature algorithms. to The ds:SignatureMethod algorithm used in the ds:SignatureValue element MUST

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Frederick, I support the changes below. They are all editorial in nature. Kind regards, Marcos On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hillebrand, Rainer rainer.hillebr...@t-mobile.net wrote: Dear Marcos, I hope to have less critical comments than in my last feedback email. 1. Section 7.1:

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Frederick Hirsch
comments inline, thanks for reviewing this regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Mar 27, 2009, at 1:26 PM, ext Hillebrand, Rainer wrote: Dear Marcos, I hope to have less critical comments than in my last feedback email. 1. Section 7.1: change The ds:SignatureMethod algorithm used

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-27 Thread Frederick Hirsch
To: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: Frederick Hirsch; marc...@opera.com; WebApps WG Subject: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft comments inline, thanks for reviewing this regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Mar 27, 2009, at 1:26 PM, ext Hillebrand, Rainer wrote: 3

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Hillebrand, Rainer
Dear Marcos, I have some proposals for editorial changes. 1. Section 1.2: change which MAY logically contains to which MAY logically contain 2. Section 1.2: An unsigned widget package is a widget package that does not contain any signature files. It is left to the user agent's security policy

AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Hillebrand, Rainer
:12:20 2009 Betreff: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Paddy Byers pa...@aplix.co.jp wrote: Hi, Agreed. Can we say were signed with the same certificate instead? I understood that Webapps had agreed to add a signature profile

RE: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Priestley, Mark, VF-Group
: public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Dear Marcos, We cannot technically guarantee that the author signature really comes from the widget's author. It is like having an envelop with an unsigned letter

AW: RE: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Hillebrand, Rainer
...@opera.com; pa...@aplix.co.jp pa...@aplix.co.jp Cc: public-webapps@w3.org public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 17:58:03 2009 Betreff: RE: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi All, As the author signature

AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Hillebrand, Rainer
Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 18:34:57 2009 Betreff: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft I think I disagree, since the intent *is* to identify the author, that is the semantics, and this proposed change makes it less clear. Of course we can argue whether or not you achieve

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Thomas Roessler
-webapps@w3.org public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 18:34:57 2009 Betreff: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft I think I disagree, since the intent *is* to identify the author, that is the semantics

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Marcos, All, Please find below my - mostly editorial - comments to the latest digsig draft and one comment for PC. Thanks. Kind regards, Marcin 1. Section 1: ... with XML signatures that each cryptographically include all of the non-signature ... should become (missing s) ... with XML

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
- Originalnachricht - Von: Marcos Caceres marc...@opera.com An: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: WebApps WG public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Gesendet: Thu Mar 26 16:24:22 2009 Betreff: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi Rainer

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
: Thu Mar 26 17:12:20 2009 Betreff: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Paddy Byers pa...@aplix.co.jp wrote: Hi, Agreed. Can we say were signed with the same certificate instead? I understood that Webapps had agreed to add

RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
WG; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: RE: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Hi Marcos, All, Please find below my - mostly editorial - comments to the latest digsig draft and one comment for PC. Thanks. Kind regards, Marcin 1. Section 1: ... with XML signatures

Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Frederick Hirsch
, March 26, 2009 7:05 PM To: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: frederick.hir...@nokia.com; mark.priest...@vodafone.com; marc...@opera.com ; pa...@aplix.co.jp; public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft What the author

RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Marcin Hanclik
, March 26, 2009 10:38 PM To: Hillebrand, Rainer Cc: marc...@opera.com; pa...@aplix.co.jp; public-webapps@w3.org; otsi-arch-...@omtplists.org Subject: Re: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft Suggestion: The author signature asserts that the signing party is an author

Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] Author, was: RE: AW: Re: [BONDI Architecture Security] [widgets] new digsig draft

2009-03-26 Thread Paddy Byers
Hi, I have been trying to identify the term author in Widget specs. I think we're in danger of getting into details that are irrelevant for the PC specification. This spec should define what information is asserted by the presence of the author and distributor signatures. It is up to a