RE: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-26 Thread Travis Leithead
half Of John Resig Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:33 AM To: Lachlan Hunt Cc: Charles McCathieNevile; WebApps WG Subject: Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec > Firefox appears to have some issues that might related to the API, though I > haven't investigated the c

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-17 Thread Robin Berjon
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:30 , Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:26:16 +0100, Cameron McCormack wrote: Charles McCathieNevile: If anyone objects to this approach (which saves some administrative work and some time), please speak up... Web IDL is still a WD. At some point before

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-17 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:26:16 +0100, Cameron McCormack wrote: Charles McCathieNevile: If anyone objects to this approach (which saves some administrative work and some time), please speak up... Web IDL is still a WD. At some point before Rec, I guess selectors-api would need to block on Web

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-17 Thread Cameron McCormack
Charles McCathieNevile: > If anyone objects to this approach (which saves some administrative > work and some time), please speak up... Web IDL is still a WD. At some point before Rec, I guess selectors-api would need to block on Web IDL progressing. What point should that be? -- Cameron McCor

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-17 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:21:09 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: this is a call for consensus to move the Selectors API [1] to Candidate Recommendation, following the end of the last call. The disposition of comments[2] has no formal objections, and I believe all substantive issues are

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-16 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:54:03 +0100, Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi John, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, John Resig wrote: Opera supports publishing this spec as a CR - and if we can get a test suite and interop report in time, in going for a PR straight away. Is this a different test sui

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-13 Thread Boris Zbarsky
John Resig wrote: As of last night's nightly WebKit has the first 100% passing implementation. Interesting. Did they do this by violating the "If the user agent also supports some level of CSS, the implementation SHOULD support the same set of selectors in both these APIs and CSS" recommend

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-13 Thread John Resig
> Firefox appears to have some issues that might related to the API, though I > haven't investigated the cause of those yet, so I don't know for sure. > Unfortunately, IE8 can't run John's tests because it relies on some DOM2 > features that aren't yet supported, so the testing framework would ne

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Cameron McCormack
Jonas Sicking: > Still not sure that I understand that chart. As I read it, firefox for > the namespaceURI parameter of DOMImplementation.createDocument treats > undefined as null (hence the 'N' in the second column). However I > would have really expected us to treat undefined as the string > 'un

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Cameron McCormack wrote: > > Boris Zbarsky: >> On John Resig's tests in particular, every single failure in Gecko is >> due to a violation of this part of the API: >> >> Undefined=Empty >> >> This is using a WebIDL syntax from a working draft that we don't >> im

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Cameron McCormack wrote: If that does end up being the more common behaviour, I’ll change the default in Web IDL to be to stringify to "undefined" unless overridden, For what it's worth, that's what the current WebIDL draft says in any case. -Boris

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Cameron McCormack
Jonas Sicking: > An alternative would be to not mention behavior for undefined at all > and let it be whatever the default is for WebIDL once that spec makes > up its mind. It seems more important to me to behave consistently with > other methods than to have any specific behavior for undefined.

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Cameron McCormack
Boris Zbarsky: > On John Resig's tests in particular, every single failure in Gecko is > due to a violation of this part of the API: > > Undefined=Empty > > This is using a WebIDL syntax from a working draft that we don't > implement yet, and the current JavaScript DOM binding in Gecko alway

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > > Lachlan Hunt wrote: >> >> Firefox appears to have some issues that might related to the API, though >> I haven't investigated the cause of those yet, so I don't know for sure. > > On John Resig's tests in particular, every single failure i

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Firefox appears to have some issues that might related to the API, though I haven't investigated the cause of those yet, so I don't know for sure. On John Resig's tests in particular, every single failure in Gecko is due to a violation of this part of the API: Undefin

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-12 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles McCathieNevile wrote: In addition, since this specification has a number of implementations we may try to have a zero-length CR period (by approving tests and showing that we have interoperability already) - any comments on that approach are welcome. Based on John Resig's tests [1],

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-09 Thread Lachlan Hunt
timeless wrote: This specification introduces two methods that take a group of selectors it requires a script like the following that iterates that => which ? No, "that" is correct in this case. With these methods, it is easier to match a set of Element nodes based on specific criteria.

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-09 Thread timeless
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: > [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/selectors-api/ I've been meaning to read this for months. sorry for the delay, i expect none of my comments are significant, but i enjoy reading and writing > This specification introduces two

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi John, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, John Resig wrote: > >> Opera supports publishing this spec as a CR - and if we can get a test suite >> and interop report in time, in going for a PR straight away. > > Is this a different test suite from the one published here: > http://ejohn.org/apps/se

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-06 Thread John Resig
> Opera supports publishing this spec as a CR - and if we can get a test suite > and interop report in time, in going for a PR straight away. Is this a different test suite from the one published here: http://ejohn.org/apps/selectortest/ http://github.com/jeresig/selectortest/tree/master Or is i

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-06 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Travis Leithead wrote: Microsoft also supports publishing. We'd also like to help by contributing tests for this spec. Who's the best point-of-contact for reviewing and checking in tests? I am. Just send me the tests, or a link to them, and I can work in integrating them, as well as John Re

RE: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-06 Thread Travis Leithead
as Sicking Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: Charles McCathieNevile Cc: WebApps WG Subject: Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec So do I, and most likely the rest of mozilla. / Jonas On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: > > On Thu

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-06 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Jonas Sicking wrote: So do I, and most likely the rest of mozilla. Seconded. -Boris

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-05 Thread Cameron McCormack
Charles McCathieNevile: > this is a call for consensus to move the Selectors API [1] to Candidate > Recommendation, following the end of the last call. +1 -- Cameron McCormack ≝ http://mcc.id.au/

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-05 Thread Jonas Sicking
So do I, and most likely the rest of mozilla. / Jonas On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:21:09 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile > wrote: > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> this is a call for consensus to move the Selectors API [1] to Candidate >> Recomme

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-05 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:21:09 +0100, "Charles McCathieNevile" wrote: > > Hi folks, > > this is a call for consensus to move the Selectors API [1] to Candidate > Recommendation, following the end of the last call. > > [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/selectors-api/ > One minor fix: s/and t

Re: Call for Consensus - Selectors API to Candidate Rec

2009-02-05 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:21:09 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi folks, this is a call for consensus to move the Selectors API [1] to Candidate Recommendation, Opera supports publishing this spec as a CR - and if we can get a test suite and interop report in time, in going for a