Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-21 Thread James Graham
On 04/21/2011 01:10 AM, Adrian Bateman wrote: First, thanks to Art for pulling all this content together. We're looking forward to a more structured process for testing as various specifications in the WebApps increase in maturity. I have a couple of small comments related to the issues Aryeh

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, I agree early and thorough review is needed and my expectation was/is that those vested in a spec and its test suite would actively participate in the creation and review of tests, regardless of whether that function was documented or not. I will add some related

RE: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-20 Thread Adrian Bateman
First, thanks to Art for pulling all this content together. We're looking forward to a more structured process for testing as various specifications in the WebApps increase in maturity. I have a couple of small comments related to the issues Aryeh raised. Apologies for the lateness of these

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Apr/18/2011 12:29 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Garrett Smithdhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: The superfluous, badly worded maladvice remains: Within each test one may have a number of asserts. Awkward wording to explicitly mention that such bad practice is

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-19 Thread Garrett Smith
On 4/19/11, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On Apr/18/2011 12:29 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Garrett Smithdhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: The superfluous, badly worded maladvice remains: Within each test one may have a number of asserts. Awkward

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
I agree the need for clear test suite status is implied and should be explicit. I've added a new requirement for this to [1]. As to how this requirement is addressed, perhaps we should adopt/re-use some existing good practice; otherwise perhaps we can use a Status/Readme file in each

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-18 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: The superfluous, badly worded maladvice remains: Within each test one may have a number of asserts. Awkward wording to explicitly mention that such bad practice is allowed. I'll reiterate that I think multiple

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-18 Thread Garrett Smith
On 4/18/11, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: The superfluous, badly worded maladvice remains: Within each test one may have a number of asserts. Awkward wording to explicitly mention that such bad

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-18 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Garrett Smith dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com wrote: A test with 0 assertions could be used to test exceptions but only if the testing framework provides for @throws annotation (my TestRunner.js does). testharness.js has an assert_throws() function that can be used in

Re: CfC: WebApps testing process; deadline April 20

2011-04-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: I have updated WebApps' testing process documents to reflect comments submitted to the initial draft process [1]. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to agree to the testing process as described in: