Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 15, 2009, at 21:12 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: I do not think they are so different. Frederick is correct in his interpretation of the intent of the specification: they are meant to be different. feature points to anything, we can still build the interpretation. But it is meant and

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 7, 2009, at 15:11 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: is pretty simple, logical, and gets the job done for most use cases. The above is not the case e.g. for mailto: or tel:, specifically if you want to be more specific/selective with the additional arguments (a la subdomains). There is a

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:00 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: As stated in my original email, one of the targets is that access is not an obstacle for DAP. The design was based on: - not restricting DAP's ability to define a security policy - enabling boolean access to URIs - having pattern matching

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Robin Berjon
On Sep 10, 2009, at 15:00 , Frederick Hirsch wrote: Is the fundamental difference of feature and access the following: feature - API set expected to be possibly used access - network resource to be accessed. Exactly. I think that part of the confusion stems from the different uses of URIs.

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: +49-208-8290-6465 Mobile: +49-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:41 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Marcos Caceres; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Marcin Hanclik
-Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:27 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Marcos Caceres; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1) On Sep 7, 2009, at 15:11 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: is pretty simple, logical

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Marcin Hanclik
-6465 Mobile: +49-163-8290-646 E-Mail: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: Robin Berjon [mailto:ro...@berjon.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:43 PM To: Frederick Hirsch Cc: Marcin Hanclik; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-17 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:41 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Marcos Caceres; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1) On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:00 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: As stated in my original email, one of the targets is that access is not an obstacle for DAP. The design

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-15 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: marcin.hanc...@access-company.com -Original Message- From: Frederick Hirsch [mailto:frederick.hir...@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:01 PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: Frederick Hirsch; public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1) Is the fundamental difference

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-10 Thread Frederick Hirsch
Is the fundamental difference of feature and access the following: feature - API set expected to be possibly used access - network resource to be accessed. if so, doesn't feature imply both the loading and permission to access a library, whereas access is about accessing a resource. if this

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-08 Thread Marcin Hanclik
: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1) Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, is pretty simple, logical, and gets the job done for most use cases. The above is not the case e.g. for mailto: or tel:, specifically if you want to be more specific/selective with the additional arguments (a la

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-07 Thread Marcin Hanclik
PM To: Marcin Hanclik Cc: public-webapps@w3.org Subject: Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1) Hi Marcin, I tried to respond to this email, but in all honesty, I can't follow your line of argumentation. Maybe you can list your main points as a list (sorry, I'm a bit simple)... From what I got, I

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, What you did in 192 characters, the access element does in 52. That is the point of the access element: to make these kind of annoying declarations easy to write. I do not think that the conciseness is the main driver of this aspect of the config.xml.

RE: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-07 Thread Marcin Hanclik
Hi Marcos, is pretty simple, logical, and gets the job done for most use cases. The above is not the case e.g. for mailto: or tel:, specifically if you want to be more specific/selective with the additional arguments (a la subdomains). It is also not the case for the distinction between

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-07 Thread Marcos Caceres
Marcin Hanclik wrote: Hi Marcos, is pretty simple, logical, and gets the job done for most use cases. The above is not the case e.g. for mailto: or tel:, specifically if you want to be more specific/selective with the additional arguments (a la subdomains). Access requests for those are

Re: [WARP] Last Call comments (1)

2009-09-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Marcin, I tried to respond to this email, but in all honesty, I can't follow your line of argumentation. Maybe you can list your main points as a list (sorry, I'm a bit simple)... From what I got, I agree that WARP is over reaching: It does not address the requirements it lists from the