Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Uhrhane
| ATT -Original Message- From: Eric Uhrhane [mailto:er...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-18 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:42 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux Sorry about the delay in response; I've been out of the office

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread David Rogers
The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the browser vendors want their products really to be seen as compatible with the Web application space (as compared to just dynamic Web pages), they will support the

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan
[mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:48 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On 6/15/10 1:15 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: We would

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Arun Ranganathan
Hi David, Thanks for your questions. On 6/16/10 2:16 AM, David Rogers wrote: The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the browser vendors want their products really to be seen as compatible with

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread David Rogers
Hi Arun, -Original Message- From: Arun Ranganathan [mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: 16 June 2010 19:48 On 6/16/10 2:16 AM, David Rogers wrote: The question of where you are represented and your ability to participate cuts both ways - the same is true for us. I think if the

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 6/16/10 12:59 PM, David Rogers wrote: [DAVID] I was actually referring to: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/privacy-reqs/ (As mentioned in previous correspondence, I think securing an API and privacy can be decoupled, but both are very relevant topics). I've read that document and think that

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-16 Thread Eric Uhrhane
Sorry about the delay in response; I've been out of the office for the past 10 days. [Also, sorry Bryan--I forgot to reply-all.] On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3...@att.com wrote: I am not meaning to be unfair, perhaps the message is not coming through clearly

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 6/15/10 1:15 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: We would not be in favor of this transfer. We believe this API needs to be developed in the DAP group, as our vision for its functionality was driven by the input from BONDI and in general as a *device* API (as compared to an abstracted API

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On 6/15/10 1:15 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: We would not be in favor of this transfer. We believe this API needs to be developed in the DAP group, as our vision for its functionality was driven by the input from BONDI

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3...@att.com wrote: Arun, The basic concern I have is with the notion of browsers as the only Web context and use-case that matters. The browser-based model for API integration view (as I understand your position) is that the user

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 6/15/10 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: Arun, The basic concern I have is with the notion of browsers as the only Web context and use-case that matters. The browser-based model for API integration view (as I understand your position) is that the user must be actively involved in

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:48 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3...@att.com wrote: Jonas, I guess there might be a parting of the ways here, resulting from differing (I guess some would say, incompatible) use cases and the APIs that support them. If the current File APIs in DAP are expected

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On 6/15/10 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: Arun, The basic concern I have is with the notion of browsers as the only Web context and use-case that matters. The browser-based model

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Mike Clement
[mailto:a...@mozilla.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:53 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux On 6/15/10 2:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) Cc: a...@mozilla.com; Robin Berjon; public-device-a...@w3.org; Ian Fette; Web Applications Working Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux Hi, Am I correct in thinking that what you find too restrictive

Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread Arun Ranganathan
Bryan, On 6/15/10 3:24 PM, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: 5) do the above programmatically in Javascript (not dependent just upon user selection of an input element and interaction with a file selector) 6) provide security for this using the policy-framework approach as being defined for

RE: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux

2010-06-15 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Group WG Subject: Re: Transferring File* to WebApps - redux As I understand it, #5 (programmatic access to files without user interaction) is indeed supported via the getFile method. But again, this is only within the sandboxed filesystem, not for an arbitrary file on the device. As for #6, I