Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:32:50 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the TCP headers in the IP packets

Re: ElementTraversal progress?

2008-06-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Followup to webapps group please (reply-to set for this mail) On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:56:22 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:05:44 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to implement the ElementTraversal spec for

Re: ElementTraversal progress?

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Followup to webapps group please (reply-to set for this mail) On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:56:22 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:05:44 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to implement

Re: New: Tracking Issues in XHR that we raised

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Zhenbin Xu wrote: It should be revised to: responseText: If the state is not DONE, raise an INVALID_STATE_ERR exception and terminate these steps. This doesn't seem very consistent with the other response properties though. Seems like .getResponseHeader and .getAllResponseHeaders work

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:32:50 +0200, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: It makes no sense to me to for HTTP say that the total number of bytes should include HTTP headers. It would be similar to including the

Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi folks, the agenda and logistics page for the meeting will be shortly available to working group members (Sunava, can you please ask your AC rep to ensure that you guys have joined by the time we have the meeting?). I have one question - although I am the chair, and the co-chair is not

RE: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Sunava Dutta
I am fine with the first meeting starting after lunchtime. It gives us a chance to chat with members and mingle before we get down to the meat and potatoes! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:public-webapps- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile Sent:

ISSUE-10 (client-server): Client and Server model [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-10 (client-server): Client and Server model [Access Control] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/ Raised by: Arthur Barstow On product: Access Control [[ This issue was created on 2008-01-04 as Issue #20 in the Web Applications Formats (WAF) WG and is copied in totality to the

Re: IRC logging

2008-06-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Gavin Sharp wrote: It does seem quite unreasonable. Why do you think it would be a serious breach of protocol? Which protocol? Making approval of logging contingent on the presence of the bot in channel seems rather arbitrary. Why not just say that approval for logging is implicit for anyone

ISSUE-11 (security-model): What is the Security Model for the access-control spec? [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-11 (security-model): What is the Security Model for the access-control spec? [Access Control] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/ Raised by: Arthur Barstow On product: Access Control [[ This issue was created on 2008-01-15 as Issue #21 in the Web Applications Formats (WAF) WG

ISSUE-12 (access-control-policy-path): IIS and Access-Control-Policy-Path [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-12 (access-control-policy-path): IIS and Access-Control-Policy-Path [Access Control] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/ Raised by: Anne van Kesteren On product: Access Control [[ This issue was created on 2008-06-06 as Issue #25 in the Web Applications Formats (WAF) WG and is

ISSUE-13 (opting-into-cookies): Opting into cookies [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-13 (opting-into-cookies): Opting into cookies [Access Control] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/ Raised by: Anne van Kesteren On product: Access Control [[ This issue was created on 2008-06-06 as Issue #26 in the Web Applications Formats (WAF) WG and is copied in totality to

ISSUE-14 (opt-into-methods-headers): Opting into methods/headers [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-14 (opt-into-methods-headers): Opting into methods/headers [Access Control] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/ Raised by: Anne van Kesteren On product: Access Control [[ This issue was created on 2008-06-06 as Issue #27 in the Web Applications Formats (WAF) WG and is copied

Re: ISSUE-4 (SpecContent): Should specifications decide what counts as content for transfer? [Progress Events]

2008-06-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Jonas Sicking wrote: Is anyone ever going to be able to get any useful size data for the headers anyway though? I.e. if we allow headers to be counted as part of the size, is anyone ever going to be able to do that? To be able to do that you'd have to have some sort of out-of-band metadata

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal

2008-06-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Jonas Sicking wrote: I'm not quite following what you are asking here. My proposal is about giving a site the ability to enable two modes of Access-Control: 1. Allow a third-party site to read the data on this resource, and/or perform unsafe methods in HTTP requests to this resource. When

[XHR2] upload complete flag

2008-06-23 Thread Olli Pettay
Hi all, the draft says that the initial value for upload complete flag is false and then there are several ways to get it set to true. But when is the value set back to false if XHR object is reused? Perhaps '3.5.3 Initiating a Request', right after step 2? -Olli

Re: ISSUE-10 (client-server): Client and Server model [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
I don't think we have seen any alternative proposals for putting the policy *enforcement* on the server. It also seems very hard to me to rely on the server enforcing the policy, while still protecting legacy servers, since they currently do not perform any such enforcement. What I have

Re: ISSUE-10 (client-server): Client and Server model [Access Control]

2008-06-23 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Jonas Sicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I have seen suggestions for though is a simpler policy language that doesn't send a full white-list to the client, but rather just a yes/no decision to the client. If we go this route, we should be careful about

RE: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Sunava Dutta
Thanks for the info. Chris is working on getting us signed up before the meeting! Meanwhile, I'm fine with a Tues noon start. I've also requested we discuss our feedback on AC on Tuesday as Eric, our security PM is out of office Wed and Thursday. Let me know what we finally decide on both

Element Nodelist - ISSUE-6 (was: ElementTraversal progress?)

2008-06-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Jonas, Daniel- Jonas Sicking wrote (on 6/23/08 2:03 PM): What about the issue I raised here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0214.html Which no one replied to. If you implement the HTML DOM you should already have code that not only filters out elements,

RE: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Sunava Dutta
The meeting says Tuesday through Thursday 24th - 26 June 2008 in the Overview section. I just had a heart attack till I realized that's probably (keeping fingers crossed) a mistake?? -:) -Original Message- From: Michael(tm) Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23,

Re: Opting in to cookies - proposal

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Jonas Sicking wrote: I'm not quite following what you are asking here. My proposal is about giving a site the ability to enable two modes of Access-Control: 1. Allow a third-party site to read the data on this resource, and/or perform unsafe methods in HTTP

Re: Element Nodelist - ISSUE-6

2008-06-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Sounds good to me. / Jonas Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Jonas, Daniel- Jonas Sicking wrote (on 6/23/08 2:03 PM): What about the issue I raised here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2008AprJun/0214.html Which no one replied to. If you implement the HTML DOM you should

Re: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi folks, the agenda and logistics page for the meeting will be shortly available to working group members (Sunava, can you please ask your AC rep to ensure that you guys have joined by the time we have the meeting?). I

Re: Initial input for discussion of Widget security model

2008-06-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Arve Bersvendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a document providing some initial input on a security model for a widget, that should provide a rough draft for providing the/a widget security model. Note that the document is not to be treated as input

Re: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- Fixed. Sunava, you can put away the heart meds. :) -Doug Charles McCathieNevile wrote (on 6/24/08 12:10 AM): On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:30:39 +0200, Sunava Dutta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The meeting says Tuesday through Thursday 24th - 26 June 2008 in the Overview section. I

Re: Agenda and logistics...

2008-06-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:43:38 +0200, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi folks, the agenda and logistics page for the meeting will be shortly available to working group members (Sunava, can you please ask your AC rep

Re: Element Nodelist - ISSUE-6

2008-06-23 Thread Daniel Glazman
Doug Schepers wrote: I will create an Element Nodelist specification right away, and if it is approved to go forward (and I don't see why it wouldn't be, since there is considerable support), I am confident that this would not slow down deployment in desktop browsers, and so authors should