Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-20 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
John's commentary just triggered a thought in my head. We should stop saying that HTML Imports block rendering. Because in reality, they don't. It's the scripts that block rendering. Steve's argument is not about HTML Imports needing to be async. It's about supporting legacy content with HTML

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel Freedman
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:51 AM, John J Barton johnjbar...@johnjbarton.comwrote: Another alternative: First let's agree that Souder's example must block: link rel=import href=import.php ... div id=import-container/div script var link = document.querySelector('link[rel=import]'); var

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel Buchner
Dimitri: right on. The use of script-after-import is the forcing function in the blocking scenario, not imports. Let's not complicate the new APIs and burden the overwhelming use-case to service folks who intend to use the technology in alternate ways. For my bit, as long as the size of the

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-20 Thread John J Barton
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Buchner dan...@mozilla.com wrote: Dimitri: right on. The use of script-after-import is the forcing function in the blocking scenario, not imports. Yes. Let's not complicate the new APIs and burden the overwhelming use-case to service folks who

Re: [HTML Imports]: Sync, async, -ish?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel Buchner
On Nov 20, 2013 11:07 AM, John J Barton johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Buchner dan...@mozilla.com wrote: Dimitri: right on. The use of script-after-import is the forcing function in the blocking scenario, not imports. Yes. Let's not

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-20 Thread Brian Di Palma
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: We share the concern Jonas expressed here as I've repeatedly mentioned on another threads. On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Jonas Sicking

Comments on version web-apps specs from 2013-10-31

2013-11-20 Thread Kowalski, Francois-Xavier
Hello I have a few comments on: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm from 2013-10-31. Apologies wether it is not the latest version: It took me some time to figure-out where was the right forum to send these comments to. Section 2.1.3: 1. Close(): For writeable

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-20 Thread Rick Waldron
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Brian Di Palma off...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: We share the concern Jonas expressed here as I've repeatedly

[Bug 23878] New: figure out termination of requests when documents become inactive

2013-11-20 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23878 Bug ID: 23878 Summary: figure out termination of requests when documents become inactive Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: Other OS: All

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-20 Thread Hajime Morrita
I'd frame the problem in a slightly different way. Seems like almost everyone agrees that we need better way to modularize JavaScript, and ES6 modules are one of the most promising way to go. And we also agree (I think) that we need a way to connect ES6 modules and the browser. What we don't

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-20 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Hajime Morrita morr...@google.com wrote: Seems like almost everyone agrees that we need better way to modularize JavaScript, and ES6 modules are one of the most promising way to go. And we also agree (I think) that we need a way to connect ES6 modules and the

Re: [HTML Imports]: what scope to run in

2013-11-20 Thread John J Barton
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Hajime Morrita morr...@google.com wrote: Seems like almost everyone agrees that we need better way to modularize JavaScript, and ES6 modules are one of the most promising way to go. And we

RE: Comments on version web-apps specs from 2013-10-31

2013-11-20 Thread Feras Moussa
Hi Francois,Thanks for the feedback. From: francois-xavier.kowal...@hp.com To: public-webapps@w3.org Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:30:47 + Subject: Comments on version web-apps specs from 2013-10-31 Hello I have a few comments on: