Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Being external to it all, i.e. just reading the mailing-list with the spec-title mentioned just about everytime, it clearly seems like a good move to me: that specs starts to taste interesting whereas, before, it seemed to be unrelated to my tasks! ;-) paul Le 13-janv.-09 à 17:50,

Re: [access-control] Header definitions

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:32:03 +0200, Nikunj Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com wrote: The headers defined in this specification must be registered with IANA. See permanent [1] managed by IETF under RFC 3864 [2]. Ideally, this specification would have gone to IETF, but it looks like this WG has

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi, On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:50 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: I know some people (e.g. Ian) don't like the idea, but it seems the name Access Control for Cross-Site Requests confuses people, especially the Access Control part: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/12/10-minutes#item03

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:28:49 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: It's been over a year since we last changed the name of this spec so I guess it's about time we renamed it again :-): [[ Authorizing Read Access to XML Content Using the ?access-control? Processing

[widgets] Agenda for 15 January 2009 Voice Conference

2009-01-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is the draft agenda for the January 15 Widgets Voice Conference (VC). Inputs and discussion on the agenda topics before the meeting is encouraged. Logistics: Time: 24:00 Tokyo; 17:00 Helsinki; 16:00 Paris; 15:00 London; 10:00 Boston; 07:00 Seattle Duration = 60 minutes Zakim

[widgets] PC 1.0 Last Call WD: localization comments

2009-01-14 Thread Jere Kapyaho
Hi Marcos, I have (still) a couple of concerns about the localization section of Widgets Packaging Configuration Last Call WD of 20081222. /1/ Is the following statement in [1] as it should be? Author requirements: Localized folders must be at the root of the widget (a localized folder not at

http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#the-widget-element height and width default values

2009-01-14 Thread Kai Hendry
Suggestion for http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#the-widget-element When the value is missing or invalid, the widget user agent will assume the value 300. And perhaps reference http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#step-3-set-the-configuration-defaults Was wondering how you came up with

[access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Adrian Bateman
I wanted to let the WG members know that we have completed our support for Access-Control in IE8 for the Simple Cross-Site Access Request. We support the Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * wildcard as we did in Beta 2 but in the next public release of IE8, our Release Candidate, we have also added

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Russell
I do agree the title is important and support either of the proposed new titles (preference goes with Resource). One question I have here is whether Domain would be more accurate than Origin. Domain does not capture significance of the scheme and port, while Origin does. I'm updating the

Re: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:53:42 +0100, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: What do other people think? If we really think they should be different (and at least Adam Barth suggests that might not be needed) I would really like to rename this header to make it consistent with the rest of

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:52:50 +0100, Alex Russell a...@dojotoolkit.org wrote: I do agree the title is important and support either of the proposed new titles (preference goes with Resource). One question I have here is whether Domain would be more accurate than Origin. Domain does not

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-01-14 Thread Bil Corry
Thomas Roessler wrote on 1/12/2009 8:02 PM: Having the CSRF-Origin defined in an RFC or another separate spec is a good idea independently of whether or not it ends up being the same header that's used for cross-site XHR. If someone wants to form an Origin BOF at the next IETF meeting in

Re: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:36:12 +0100, Bil Corry b...@corry.biz wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote on 1/14/2009 12:53 PM: The problem I think is that the current name, 'Origin', is extremely generic and so it's likely to cause confusion once we get other headers containing origins. That said, I do

Re: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:36:12 +0100, Bil Corry b...@corry.biz wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote on 1/14/2009 12:53 PM: The problem I think is that the current name, 'Origin', is extremely generic and so it's likely to

RE: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Adrian Bateman
On January 14, 2009 11:45 AM, Anne van Kesteren [mailto:ann...@opera.com] wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:36:12 +0100, Bil Corry b...@corry.biz wrote: Jonas Sicking wrote on 1/14/2009 12:53 PM: The problem I think is that the current name, 'Origin', is extremely generic and so it's likely to

Re: Do we need to rename the Origin header?

2009-01-14 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: It's not just POST that we need to worry about, ideally we should cover the GET case as well. Or at least it's quite likely that we

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Alex Russell
Feels like URL vs. URI to me, which for the 80% case is simply bike- shedding. I appreciate that there is a question of specificity and that your clarification is more correct...but is that a good enough reason to do it? Regards On Jan 14, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On

Re: [access-control] Rename spec?

2009-01-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:25:43 +0100, Alex Russell a...@dojotoolkit.org wrote: Feels like URL vs. URI to me, which for the 80% case is simply bike- shedding. To be honest, I never quite understood the difference between those two. The difference between a domain and an origin however, is

Re: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Bil Corry wrote: Adrian Bateman wrote on 1/14/2009 3:18 PM: I actually don't think that the generic name is a problem as long as the CSRF solution uses a different name for a different meaning. The value really is an Origin and could potentially be used for

Re: Copyright license for ElementTraversal Java interface

2009-01-14 Thread Cameron McCormack
Cameron McCormack: The question then is whether we want to include it. I don’t see how it would be beneficial for anyone to redistribute one of the interface files if it has been changed incompatibly, so I guess I don’t see the need for it. Some further off-list discussion regarding general

Re: [access-control] Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * and ascii-origin in IE8

2009-01-14 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Bil Corry wrote: Maciej Stachowiak wrote on 1/14/2009 6:14 PM: Why does the CSRF defense header need to change on redirect? Because to the site on the far end, it would appear the request came from somewhere it didn't, effectively hiding the real source of