Re: Using W3C widgets in a web container: two implementations contrasted

2009-01-23 Thread Marcos Caceres

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Scott Wilson
scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Marcos,

 The engine/platform has to provide a means for a widget to access
 externally-offered web services without breaking the same origin policy of
 the browser. To do this both projects have implemented a server-side proxy
 that routes requests from the widget via the widget engine, so that widgets
 only make requests within the same domain from which they are served.

Ok, makes sense.

 In the case of Wookie, the Widget object has a proxify(url) method that just
 returns a rewritten URL formatted for a server-side whitelisting proxy; the
 widget JS implementation can then invoke XMLHttpRequest (or use an AJAX
 library such as Prototype) - with the value of the proxified URL instead
 of using the original URL, which would most likely be blocked by the browser
 as a x-site scripting violation.

Also makes sense.

 E.g. if the original URL was http://www.elsewhere.com/service/; then the
 result of proxify(http://www.elsewhere.com/service;)  might be
 https://www.here.com/wookie/services/proxy?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.elsewhere.com%2Fservice%2F;

 In the case of Palette, the project created wrappers methods in the Widget
 object for the various remote access methods (get, post, getJSON, put,
 delete) that rewrites the request to point via its proxy endpoint.

 The net result is the same, but the question is which is the better approach
 in terms of API design? We designed an approach to give widget developers
 flexibility wrt libraries and tools for handling requests; Palette's design
 goal was for making development of widgets simpler.

Ok, I guess the thing the working group needs to take away from this
is how do we deal with widgets not having an origin. This might not be
too much of an issue so long as the author declares which domains they
want to communicate with. That way, the widget engine can allow access
to the desired domains without requiring a server-side proxy as an
intermediary.

Given your implementation experience, if you have any suggestion on
how you think we should proceed we would certainly like to hear them.

Kind regards,
Marcos


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Marcos Caceres
http://datadriven.com.au



[widgets] Renaming thumbnail to screenshot

2009-01-23 Thread Marcos Caceres

Hi,
I would like to rename thumbnail to screenshot in the packaging
spec. As the thumbnail graphically represents the widget in a running
state it makes more sense to call it a screenshot.

Kind regards,
Marcos
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http://datadriven.com.au