Re: CfC: to publish a new WD of the DOM3 Events spec; deadline Sep 4

2009-08-28 Thread mozer
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new WD of the DOM 3 Events > spec: > >  http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html > > As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and > si

Re: CfC: to publish a new WD of the DOM3 Events spec; deadline Sep 4

2009-08-28 Thread Philippe Le Hegaret
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:46 +0200, Robin Berjon wrote: > the editors' list reads like a war monument... Actually, names have been added between the December 2007 and this version and I don't know why (more people to blame? :). Arnaud and Bob didn't edit the events specification [1] in the past.

Re: CfC: to publish a new WD of the DOM3 Events spec; deadline Sep 4

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 28, 2009, at 17:28 , Arthur Barstow wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new WD of the DOM 3 Events spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will b

Re: CfC: to publish a new WD of the DOM3 Events spec; deadline Sep 4

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new WD of the DOM 3 Events spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3- Events.html As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encourage

CfC: to publish a new WD of the DOM3 Events spec; deadline Sep 4

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a new WD of the DOM 3 Events spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be assent. The deadline for comment

Re: [widgets] P&C the following should be a note

2009-08-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
Arthur Barstow wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:24 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:22 , Marcos Caceres wrote: [[ Note: A user agent that supports the [Widgets-APIs] specification will expose any declared preference to the author at runtime via scripting in the manner described

Re: [widgets] P&C UA does not deal with SVG icons

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:55 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:52 , Marcos Caceres wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: Same thing, should be a UI product — there's nothing wrong with having a bit of that, so long as it's not too constraining. I agree. I

Re: [widgets] P&C the following should be a note

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:24 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:22 , Marcos Caceres wrote: [[ Note: A user agent that supports the [Widgets-APIs] specification will expose any declared preference to the author at runtime via scripting in the manner described in the [Widgets-APIs]

Re: [widgets] More misplaced assertions

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:50 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:11 , Marcos Caceres wrote: I don't think the following two assertions are worth testing (and should not apply to the P&C UA). [[ A user agent should expose

Re: [widgets] P&C, assertion in wrong spec

2009-08-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Aug 28, 2009, at 5:54 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 14:33 , Marcos Caceres wrote: For the purpose of testing, I think the following assertion is in the wrong spec (P&C): [[ A user agent must prevent a browsing c

Re: [webdatabase] changeVersion should allow all callbacks to be optional

2009-08-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Lachlan Hunt wrote: The spec currently requires the first 2 callbacks for the changeVersion method, while the 3rd is optional. The spec should make all of the callbacks optional so authors don't resort to specifying empty functions when they don't actually need to do anything with it. On s

Re: [widgets] P&C UA does not deal with SVG icons

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:52 , Marcos Caceres wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: Same thing, should be a UI product — there's nothing wrong with having a bit of that, so long as it's not too constraining. I agree. I don't have a issue with the assertions. I just don't

Re: [widgets] P&C, assertion in wrong spec

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:54 , Marcos Caceres wrote: Oh yeah, explaining why would help:) Like with the UI product from the prev email, this UA does not execute or deal with scripts. It only deals with processing config.xml and zip files. It should not behave as a policy enforcement point. So this

[webdatabase] changeVersion should allow all callbacks to be optional

2009-08-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Hi, The spec currently requires the first 2 callbacks for the changeVersion method, while the 3rd is optional. The spec should make all of the callbacks optional so authors don't resort to specifying empty functions when they don't actually need to do anything with it. -- Lachlan Hunt - Op

Re: [widgets] P&C the following should be a note

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:22 , Marcos Caceres wrote: [[ Note: A user agent that supports the [Widgets-APIs] specification will expose any declared preference to the author at runtime via scripting in the manner described in the [Widgets-APIs] specification. ]] +1 -- Robin Berjon - http://ber

Re: [widgets] P&C, assertion in wrong spec

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 14:33 , Marcos Caceres wrote: For the purpose of testing, I think the following assertion is in the wrong spec (P&C): [[ A user agent must prevent a browsing context of a widget from accessing (e.g., via scripts, CSS, HTML, etc.) the contents of a digital signature docu

Re: [widgets] P&C, assertion in wrong spec

2009-08-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Aug 27, 2009, at 14:33 , Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> For the purpose of testing, I think the following assertion is in the >> wrong spec (P&C): >> >> [[ >> A user agent must prevent a browsing context of a widget from accessing >> (e.g., vi

Re: [widgets] P&C UA does not deal with SVG icons

2009-08-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:33 , Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> I also don't believe that the following text belongs in the P&C spec >> (though it certainly needs to go somewhere): >> [[ >> A user agent that supports [SVG] as an icon format may displa

Re: ISSUE-99 (listen): Add shorter method names for addEventListener, et al? [DOM3 Events]

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:00 , Oliver Hunt wrote: I agree, also it is trivial for a developer or library to provide aliases to provide the shortened form (including supporting listenOnce) One shouldn't need to add a library just to make core interfaces user friendly. Libraries are for complic

Re: [widgets] More misplaced assertions

2009-08-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:11 , Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> I don't think the following two assertions are worth testing (and should >> not apply to the P&C UA). >> >> [[ >> A user agent should expose custom icons in a way that it is visible to th

Re: ISSUE-99 (listen): Add shorter method names for addEventListener, et al? [DOM3 Events]

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:46 , Sergey Ilinsky wrote: Starting shortening member names can open the Pandora box. What about getElementsByTagName, querySelector etc.? I think at this point of time it is better to avoid such an initiative. Because? And why at this point in time? Will it become oka

Re: ISSUE-99 (listen): Add shorter method names for addEventListener, et al? [DOM3 Events]

2009-08-28 Thread Sergey Ilinsky
> > Starting shortening member names can open the Pandora > box. What about getElementsByTagName, querySelector etc.? I > think at this point of time it is better to avoid such an > initiative. > > Because? > And why at this point in time? To my knowledge the group is trying to advance the DOM-

Re: [widgets] More misplaced assertions

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:11 , Marcos Caceres wrote: I don't think the following two assertions are worth testing (and should not apply to the P&C UA). [[ A user agent should expose custom icons in a way that it is visible to the end user. ]] And... [[ When the license element's href attribu

Re: ISSUE-99 (listen): Add shorter method names for addEventListener, et al? [DOM3 Events]

2009-08-28 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:19:54 +0200, Robin Berjon wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:46 , Sergey Ilinsky wrote: Starting shortening member names can open the Pandora box. What about getElementsByTagName, querySelector etc.? I think at this point of time it is better to avoid such an initiative.

Re: [widgets] P&C UA does not deal with SVG icons

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Berjon
On Aug 27, 2009, at 17:33 , Marcos Caceres wrote: I also don't believe that the following text belongs in the P&C spec (though it certainly needs to go somewhere): [[ A user agent that supports [SVG] as an icon format may display declarative animation. However, for security reasons, ... ]]