Re: [widgets] Test suite full coverage of mandatory aspects in the PC spec, was Re: OMTP BONDI Reference Implementation fully compliant against mandatory PC tests

2009-11-30 Thread Scott Wilson
Hi Marcos, The latest PC test results for Apache Wookie (incubating) are: 165 tests 16 ignored 17 failures 132 passes Failed: dc,d4,an,co,za,bv,rd,b2, ao,cp,cj,af,e8,bl,bm,bn,zz (though the last four test cases may be in error; see previous email) Ignored (not automatically tested - doesn't

Re: [widgets] Test suite full coverage of mandatory aspects in the PC spec, was Re: OMTP BONDI Reference Implementation fully compliant against mandatory PC tests

2009-11-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Scott Scott Wilson wrote: Hi Marcos, The latest PC test results for Apache Wookie (incubating) are: 165 tests 16 ignored 17 failures 132 passes Failed: dc,d4,an,co,za,bv,rd,b2, ao,cp,cj,af,e8,bl,bm,bn,zz (though the last four test cases may be in error; see previous email) Ignored (not

Re: [widgets] Interface published

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 25, 2009, at 15:52 , Marcos Caceres wrote: If the http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets-apis/#the-preferences-attribute was mandatory, which I think it should be since many widgets I've come across rely on **setPreferenceForKey** and **preferenceForKey** conventions, wouldn't it be sensible

Re: [selectors-api] querySelector with namespace

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 26, 2009, at 15:07 , Lachlan Hunt wrote: Jonathan Watt wrote: Nevertheless, that doesn't mean that Web content shouldn't be able to process XML that uses xml:id using script and present the processed information to the user using content and semantics that *does* belong on the Web.

Re: [widgets] CfC: to publish LC#2 of the WARP spec; deadline 2 December

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 27, 2009, at 15:50 , Arthur Barstow wrote: As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be assent. The deadline for comments is December 2. We support publishing this document. -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/

Re: [widgets] test-suite, default xml:lang

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Cyril, On Nov 27, 2009, at 11:29 , Cyril Concolato wrote: As a clarification can you tell me what would be the name value for the following config documents assuming the user locale is en only (no *) Note that if the user locale (by which I assume you mean what the user agent starts with,

Re: [selectors-api] querySelector with namespace

2009-11-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Robin Berjon wrote: On Nov 26, 2009, at 15:07 , Lachlan Hunt wrote: Jonathan Watt wrote: Nevertheless, that doesn't mean that Web content shouldn't be able to process XML that uses xml:id using script and present the processed information to the user using content and semantics that *does*

Re: [widgets] element-based localization

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 27, 2009, at 20:55 , Marcos Caceres wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: I'm trying to implement the element-based localization and I found the spec unclear with regards to the inheritance of th xml:lang attribute and I would like to

Re: [widgets] CfC: to publish LC#2 of the WARP spec; deadline 2 December

2009-11-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2009, at 15:50 , Arthur Barstow wrote: As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be assent. The deadline for comments is December 2. We support

Re: [selectors-api] querySelector with namespace

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 30, 2009, at 15:38 , Lachlan Hunt wrote: The lack of namespace resolution in selectors is extremely annoying because it means that one has to switch between selectors (if only for classes support) and the XPath APIs for namespace support whenever one tries to do, you know, one of those

Re: [selectors-api] querySelector with namespace

2009-11-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Robin Berjon wrote: There are quite a few services out there that return XML — it would be disingenuous to pretend otherwise. The addition of x-site requests to the stack makes these even more available. XHR supports XML natively, including namespace. Selectors support namespaces natively.

[widgets] PAG Launched for Widgets 1.0: Access Requests Policy (WARP) spec

2009-11-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
From: ext Ian Jacobs i...@w3.org Date: November 30, 2009 12:08:22 PM EST Subject: PAG Launched for WebApps Working Group Regarding Widgets 1.0: Access Requests Policy ... In accordance with the W3C Patent Policy [0], W3C has launched a Patent Advisory Group (PAG) to advise the W3C on a

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-11-30 Thread Stephen Jolly
On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:12, Marcin Hanclik wrote: As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ Clearly there are usage scenarios based on technologies

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Stephen, On Nov 30, 2009, at 19:13 , Stephen Jolly wrote: On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:12, Marcin Hanclik wrote: As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at:

Re: [WARP4U] WARP with UPnP, was: RE: [widgets] Draft Minutes for 19 November 2009 Voice Conference

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Marcin, On Nov 20, 2009, at 18:12 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: As discussed on the yesterday's call, I committed to CVS the WARP spec with the section about local network (required for UPnP use cases) at: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-access-upnp/ What we discussed on the call was

Re: [widgets] Publishing LC#2 of the WARP spec

2009-11-30 Thread Robin Berjon
On Nov 25, 2009, at 21:32 , Arthur Barstow wrote: During the November 19 widget call [Nov-19], we spent considerable time discussing how to handle requests for new requirements/features but did not reach consensus. There a couple of options to address new requirements and features and we

[widgets] Reminder: the Widget Interface LC comment period ends December 8

2009-11-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
December 8 is the deadline for comments regarding the Last Call Working Draft of the Widget Interface spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-apis-20091117/ Comments should be sent to: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow Begin forwarded message: From: ext Marcos Caceres

Re: [widgets] element-based localization

2009-11-30 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2009, at 20:55 , Marcos Caceres wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: I'm trying to implement the element-based localization and I found the spec unclear with

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
Hi Nikunj, @2009-11-26 02:00 -0800: [...] Here's my suggestion: 1. WebDatabase be renamed to WebSQLDatabase 2. WebSimpleDB be renamed to ISAM Database Level 1 I don't think ISAM Database Level 1 is an improvement. As an alternative title, I suggest Web Key-Value Database. As far as

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I agree with Mike, but I'd also note that Web Key-Value Database could easily be confused with WebStorage given that it also uses a Key-Value model. Which brings up another point: Maybe WebStorage should be renamed as well? On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Michael(tm) Smith m...@w3.org wrote:

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org, 2009-11-30 14:46 -0800: I agree with Mike, but I'd also note that Web Key-Value Database could easily be confused with WebStorage given that it also uses a Key-Value model. True but we know the distinction is that Web Storage does not use a database. Or I

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Hi Nikunj, @2009-11-26 02:00 -0800: [...] Here's my suggestion: 1. WebDatabase be renamed to WebSQLDatabase 2. WebSimpleDB be renamed to ISAM Database Level 1 I don't think ISAM Database Level 1 is an improvement. As an alternative

Re: CfC - publish Selectors API as CR

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Anne van Kesteren wrote: The CSS WG relatively recently dropped this requirement. Developer builds are now sufficient. I was not really in favor, but most of the group was. I'm not really in favour of dropping this requirements either. The whole point of beta builds

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
Hi Mike, Good to see some comments on this. On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Hi Nikunj, @2009-11-26 02:00 -0800: [...] Here's my suggestion: 1. WebDatabase be renamed to WebSQLDatabase 2. WebSimpleDB be renamed to ISAM Database Level 1 I don't think ISAM Database

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org, 2009-11-30 14:46 -0800: I agree with Mike, but I'd also note that Web Key-Value Database could easily be confused with WebStorage given that it also uses a Key- Value model. True but we know the

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Nordman
Web-Indexed-Storage On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.comwrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org, 2009-11-30 14:46 -0800: I agree with Mike, but I'd also note that Web Key-Value Database could

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
Nikunj R. Mehta nikunj.me...@oracle.com, 2009-11-30 16:49 -0800: [...] A generic term could mean something too broad and a specific term might be arcane. To the extent that the arcane term is the most used for a certain meaning and can be easily understood by readers with minimal help,

Re: WebDatabase review: SQLResultSetRowList

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: SQLResultSetRowList The item() method may take a long time to process. Shouldn't this have an asynchronous version with a callback? The ability to randomly access rows in the row set increases the likelihood that the item operation will take an

Re: [web databases] about rowids

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009, João Eiras wrote: Hi everyone. 1) Currently, SqlResultSet.insertId is defined as a integer. This would prevent user agents to use an underlying database engine that does not rely on integers for rowids. For instance, both SQLite, MS Access, Informix use integers it

Re: [webdatabase] Minor Clarification Needed in Processing Model

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Hi, In step 10 of the processing model, it states: Queue a task to invoke the error callback, if it is not null, with a newly constructed SQLError object that represents the last error to have occurred in this transaction. Rollback the

Re: [web databases] changeVersion error reporting

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, João Eiras wrote: Database.changeVersion expects oldVersion and newVersion arguments. The Database also specifies a version attribute. The transaction steps tell to fail the transaction due to the failed preflight condition if oldVersion does not match the current

Re: [web databases] SQLStatementErrorCallback

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Dumitru Daniliuc wrote: When talking about statement error callbacks (point #6, section 4.3.2), the spec says: 1. If the error callback returns false, then move on to the next statement, if any, or onto the next overall step otherwise. 2. Otherwise, the error callback

Re: WebDatabase bug tracking

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Can we have another component added to Bug tracker for WebDatabase? I feel the need to track several bugs and am not at all comfortable with

Re: [webdatabase] wording on Parsing and processing SQL statements section

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, João Eiras wrote: In section 4.2 Parsing and processing SQL statements, point 2 starts as Replace each ? placeholder but then says later Note: Substitutions for ? placeholders are done at the literal level, not as string concatenations. By using the word replace, that

Re: [EventSource] Comments to the current draft

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) wrote: Re The API is designed such that it can be extended to work with other push notification schemes such as Push SMS.: what is meant by Push SMS? Does this refer to OMA Push, i.e. the service enabler defined by the Open Mobile Alliance

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
I like the name, except the Web part. Why is it necessary? I argued that it will not be limited to user agents only. Would it really be bad to call it Index Sequential Database? On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Frederick Hirsch wrote: how about Indexed Sequential Web Database, losing the

Re: Renaming WebDatabase and WebSimpleDB

2009-11-30 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
Since this API is about a transactional database, it is better to call it a database instead of storage. Storage also means that there is no automated index maintenance since it is only about storage and not about arrangement of records or their indexing. Nikunj On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:11

Re: Seeking pre-LCWD comments for: Server-sent Events, Web {Database, Sockets, Storage Workers}; deadline 19 November

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Jonas Sicking wrote: I know we had this conversation before, and I'm not even sure which side of the issue I was on at the time, but given the amount of confusion at the TPAC meeting yesterday, I think we should consider renaming the Web Database spec. It seems clear