Re: Scientific Literature on Capabilities (was Re: CORS versus Uniform Messaging?)

2009-12-15 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: For what it's worth, I'm not sure that eliminating is correct here. With UM, I can certainly see people doing things like using a wrapping library for all UM requests (very commonly done with XHR today), and then letting

Re: [widgets] test suite, the width/height attribute

2009-12-15 Thread Cyril Concolato
Hi Marcos, Le 14/12/2009 16:49, Marcos Caceres a écrit : On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Cyril Concolatocyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: Dear Widgets-experts, While checking some of the tests, I found some unclear processing with regards to the width and height attribute of widget element. The

[XHR] Small text correction.

2009-12-15 Thread Huub Schaeks
The third sentence in section 4.1 reads: When the XMLHttpRequest object used in other contexts their values will have to be defined as appropriate for that context. I think the word is, is missing in the first part of it: When the XMLHttpRequest object is used in other contexts their values

Re: [AC/CORS] Proper behavior for user agents who return 'null' Access-Control-Allow-Origin

2009-12-15 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:03:27 +0100, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: My recollection from the meeting in seattle was that we did not want to allow this. In any case, it does seem like a very strange feature to me. Sending Access-Control-Allow-Origin: null would then mean essentially,

Re: CfC: to publish LCWD of: Server-Events, Web {SQL Database, Sockets, Storage, Worker}; deadline 15 December

2009-12-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Dec 7, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a Last Call Working Draft of the following specs: 1. Server-Sent Events http://dev.w3.org/html5/eventsource/ 2. Web SQL Database http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/ 3. Web

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (7)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Larry, On Dec 9, 2009, at 19:20 , Larry Masinter wrote: In general, I support appropriate use of version numbers in languages and language specifications, especially since documents and file formats have ample opportunities for in-band version indicators. It's unfortunate that URIs, being

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (7)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Marcin, On Dec 9, 2009, at 22:37 , Marcin Hanclik wrote: WOW: It's a pity you were not involved in the discussions around PC's version attribute. Heh :) I doubt it would have made much of a difference; usage of version identifiers in XML languages has been a topic for almost a decade and

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (4)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 9, 2009, at 19:15 , Larry Masinter wrote: 4) ** EDITORIAL RE OTHER SCHEME ** In fact, it is possible that both this scheme and another defined to access Zip archive content would be used jointly, with little or no overlap in functionality. Without any other context, this is

Re: [public-webapps] Comments on Widget URI (General)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Larry, On Dec 7, 2009, at 20:03 , Larry Masinter wrote: I'll ask the TAG to review your responses at our F2F this week. Sorry for the delay. Has there been any output from the TAG's meeting? I see from the minutes that there is some discussion but it seems to be erroneous in parts (widget

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (1)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Larry, On Dec 7, 2009, at 19:59 , Larry Masinter wrote: If the purpose of the authority and query components is that they are supposed to be processed by scripts in pages that use widget URIs, then the specification should say so. Opaque fields with no semantics and no identified purpose

Re: [widgets] test suite, the width/height attribute

2009-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: Hi Marcos, Le 14/12/2009 16:49, Marcos Caceres a écrit : On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Cyril Concolatocyril.concol...@enst.fr  wrote: Dear Widgets-experts, While checking some of the tests, I found some

[widgets] test suite: br.wgt

2009-12-15 Thread Cyril Concolato
Hi all, In the test suite, the test br.wgt leads to a widget with no valid start file. I think this should be considered an invalid widget because a Widget UA will not be able to display it, the user may see an icon but nothing happening when activating it. WDYT ? Cyril -- Cyril Concolato

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (3)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Larry, On Dec 9, 2009, at 19:08 , Larry Masinter wrote: Your reference to 'every drive-by you should use this! argument' is mainly irrelevant to my comment and I assume your goal was to be insulting, alluding to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive-by_shooting -- unless you have some other

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (5)

2009-12-15 Thread Julian Reschke
Robin Berjon wrote: Dear Larry, thank you for your comments. On Oct 10, 2009, at 19:44 , Larry Masinter wrote: 5) ** EDITORIAL USE OF URI FOR IRI ** Throughout this specification, wherever the term URI [URI] is used, it can be replaced interchangeably with the term IRI [RFC3987]. All widget

Re: [widgets] test suite: br.wgt

2009-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Cyril On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: Hi all, In the test suite, the test br.wgt leads to a widget with no valid start file. I think this should be considered an invalid widget because a Widget UA will not be able to display it, the user may

Re: [widgets] test suite: br.wgt

2009-12-15 Thread Cyril Concolato
Hi, Le 15/12/2009 18:00, Marcos Caceres a écrit : Hi Cyril On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: Hi all, In the test suite, the test br.wgt leads to a widget with no valid start file. I think this should be considered an invalid widget because a

Re: [public-webapps] Comments on Widget URI (General)

2009-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi Larry, On Dec 7, 2009, at 20:03 , Larry Masinter wrote: I'll ask the TAG to review your responses at our F2F this week. Sorry for the delay. Has there been any output from the TAG's meeting? I see from the minutes that

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (5)

2009-12-15 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Julian, On Dec 15, 2009, at 17:34 , Julian Reschke wrote: Robin Berjon wrote: It seems that we seriously need a finding explaining to specification authors that creating new terms where existing widely used ones can be made to work is a bad idea that will most likely fail. Most

Re: [widgets] test suite: br.wgt

2009-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
Cyril Concolato wrote: Hi, Le 15/12/2009 18:00, Marcos Caceres a écrit : Hi Cyril On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Cyril Concolato cyril.concol...@enst.fr wrote: Hi all, In the test suite, the test br.wgt leads to a widget with no valid start file. I think this should be considered an

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (2)

2009-12-15 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Larry, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi Larry, On Dec 9, 2009, at 17:55 , Larry Masinter wrote: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-iri-bis-07#section-5 gives several different examples of normalization and comparison of strings for the

Re: Scientific Literature on Capabilities (was Re: CORS versus Uniform Messaging?)

2009-12-15 Thread Tyler Close
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: There seem to be two schools of thought that to some extent inform the

Re: Scientific Literature on Capabilities (was Re: CORS versus Uniform Messaging?)

2009-12-15 Thread Tyler Close
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: For example, the User Consent Phase and Grant Phase above could be replaced

Re: Scientific Literature on Capabilities (was Re: CORS versus Uniform Messaging?)

2009-12-15 Thread Adam Barth
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Tyler Close tyler.cl...@gmail.com wrote: Just so that everyone knows, IE has changed this policy, so it's not a situation where we'll be waiting forever. See: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb250473(VS.85).aspx Adam, were you aware of this policy

Re: [AC/CORS] Proper behavior for user agents who return 'null' Access-Control-Allow-Origin

2009-12-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:03:27 +0100, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: My recollection from the meeting in seattle was that we did not want to allow this. In any case, it does seem like a very strange feature to

Re: [public-webapps] Comment on Widget URI (3)

2009-12-15 Thread timeless
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: The term drive-by comment is one made against a specification in passing without the diligence and conscientiousness to participate in the follow-up discussion; and typically to then re-iterate it later. I believe that the

RE: CfC: to publish LCWD of: Server-Events, Web {SQL Database, Sockets, Storage, Worker}; deadline 15 December

2009-12-15 Thread Adrian Bateman
On Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:27 AM, Arun Ranganathan wrote: Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:46:12 -0800, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a Last Call Working Draft of the following specs: 1.