[WebSQLDatabase] openDatabase() creation callback

2010-02-23 Thread Dumitru Daniliuc
Hi, I know that not many people on this list care about the WebSQLDatabase spec anymore (especially when it comes to changing it), but Chromium extension developers do. So I was hoping somebody could explain the idea behind having openDatabase() take a creationCallback. As I understand it, the cal

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Drew Wilson
2010/2/23 Jonas Sicking > > The same is not true for the suggest notification API. Several > proposals have been put forward that do not rely on fallback. > > One of the reasons I stepped back from this discussion is because it seemed clear that we weren't going to make progress on solutions unti

File URN lifetimes and SharedWorkers

2010-02-23 Thread Drew Wilson
This was recently brought to my attention by one of the web app developers in my office: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/#lifetime User agents MUST ensure that the lifetime of File URN <#dfn-fileURN>s is the same as the lifetime of the Document [HTML5 <#HTML5>] of the origin script which sp

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Am 23. Februar 2010 13:44 schrieb Jonas Sicking : > 2010/2/23 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) : > > Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren : > >> > >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Opti

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
2010/2/23 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) : > Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren : >> >> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) >> wrote: >>> >>> CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Optional] in >>> DOMString MimeType1, [Optional] in DOMString Notific

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Drew Wilson
2010/2/23 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) > Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren : > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) < >> ife...@google.com> wrote: >> >>> CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Optional] in >>> DOMString MimeType1, [Optional] in

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Doug Schepers wrote (on 2/23/10 2:43 PM): HTML is a little bit more widely adopted than SVG (I suspect that there are 10x as many HTML documents as SVG documents on the Web). I've been told offlist that it may not be obvious that I was joking here... "10x" is an absurdly low figure... HTML is

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren : > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) < > ife...@google.com> wrote: > >> CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Optional] in >> DOMString MimeType1, [Optional] in DOMString NotificationFormat1, >> [Optio

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Optional] in DOMString MimeType1, [Optional] in DOMString NotificationFormat1, [Optional] in DOMString MimeType2, [Optional] NotificationFormat2, ...) forgive my broken

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Ian- No need to apologize... HTML is a little bit more widely adopted than SVG (I suspect that there are 10x as many HTML documents as SVG documents on the Web). It may be that only specifying text and HTML notifications is the best way forward for now, I just wanted to make sure it was

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Doug - I did not mean to be HTML centric, apologies. I'm currently going through a debate in my mind (scary thing) about whether allowing an arbitrary mime type and content would be good or bad. My gut sense here is that if the UA is capable of displaying it, we should allow it, and it will be use

Re: Web services and Rich Internet Applications documentation request

2010-02-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Replied offline... Cheers On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:28:46 +0100, David Geer wrote: Can someone point me to documentation on what is being developed in this Working Group in the way of web services that specifically serve the needs of Rich Internet Applications? I am a technology reporter cove

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Jeremy Orlow
This seems like a balance and all around reasonable way to move forward. 2010/2/23 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) > This thread seems to have languished, and I'm trying to figure out how to > move forward here. > > My understanding, grossly simplified, of the current state of the world is > this: > > 1. S

Web services and Rich Internet Applications documentation request

2010-02-23 Thread David Geer
Can someone point me to documentation on what is being developed in this Working Group in the way of web services that specifically serve the needs of Rich Internet Applications? I am a technology reporter covering RIAs. Links would be great. Best Regards, David Geer 440-964-9832 http://www.lin

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Ian- I generally agree with you, and certainly with your sentiment. Not to go all SVG on you, but why "*HTMLNotification"? I understand that HTML is really common, and that increasingly SVG can be used as part of HTML, but there are lots of devices out there (TVs, mobiles, set-top boxes)

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
This thread seems to have languished, and I'm trying to figure out how to move forward here. My understanding, grossly simplified, of the current state of the world is this: 1. Some people have a desire to show HTML / interactive notifications, to support use cases like "remind me of this calenda

Re: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Julian Reschke
On 23.02.2010 13:53, Hans Meiser wrote: I should have been more precise in my last reply: However, I see a lack in this definition (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-9.4) regarding resources usually obtained by a POST request: If uploaded data is not going to be sent to the host along

RE: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Hans Meiser
I should have been more precise in my last reply: However, I see a lack in this definition (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-9.4) regarding resources usually obtained by a POST request: If uploaded data is not going to be sent to the host along with a HEAD request, not ALL headers

RE: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Hans Meiser
OK, I see... Given this definition then, the case is closed. However, I see a lack in the definition regarding resources obtained by a POST request: Not ALL headers will be returned with expected values if uploaded data is not going to be sent to the host. Best regards, www.axeldahmen.de Axel

Re: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:29:59 +0100, Hans Meiser wrote: I believe this spec ought to be updated to also exclude POST data from being uploaded for HTTP request methods like DELETE, TRACE, OPTIONS. As I said in the bug, we do not want to constrain HTTP more than we already do. I believe this i

RE: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Hans Meiser
Hi Anne, > > I believe this spec ought to be updated to also exclude POST data from > > being uploaded for HTTP request methods like DELETE, TRACE, OPTIONS. > > As I said in the bug, we do not want to constrain HTTP more than we > already do. I believe this is not a question of wanting but a q

Re: XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:06:20 +0100, Hans Meiser wrote: I believe this spec ought to be updated to also exclude POST data from being uploaded for HTTP request methods like DELETE, TRACE, OPTIONS. As I said in the bug, we do not want to constrain HTTP more than we already do. Plus, I beli

XMLHttpRequest send() Method Uploads On Inappropriate HTTP Protocols

2010-02-23 Thread Hans Meiser
Hello, I noticed that the Mozilla XMLHttpRequest send() method implementation uploads POST data on any protocol other than GET. According to a discussion at Bugzilla, this is due to the specs: http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/#the-send-method I believe this spec ought to be updated to also