Re: [IndexedDB] Cursors and modifications

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > Making sure I get the essence of this thread: we're saying that cursors see > live changes as they happen on objects that are "after" the object you're > currently standing on; Yes. > and of course, any other activity within a transaction

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:43 PM > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Pablo Castro > wrote: >> >> From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:07 AM

RE: [IndexedDB] Cursors and modifications

2010-07-14 Thread Pablo Castro
Making sure I get the essence of this thread: we're saying that cursors see live changes as they happen on objects that are "after" the object you're currently standing on; and of course, any other activity within a transaction sees all the changes that happened before that activity took place.

RE: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Pablo Castro
From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:43 PM On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:07 AM > >> I think what I'm struggling with is how dynamic transaction

Re: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
Ok, I'll bow to majority vote then :) / Jonas On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > From my perspective cancelling is not something that happens that often, and > when it happens it's probably ok to cancel the whole transaction. If we can > spec abort() in the transaction obje

Re: [cors] Unrestricted access

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Tyler Close wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Tyler Close wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >>

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:07 AM > >>> > Dynamic transactions: >>> > I see that most folks would like to see these going away. While I like >>> > the predictability and simplifications

RE: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Pablo Castro
>From my perspective cancelling is not something that happens that often, and >when it happens it's probably ok to cancel the whole transaction. If we can >spec abort() in the transaction object such that it try to cancel all pending >operations and then rollback any work that has been done so f

Re: [cors] Unrestricted access

2010-07-14 Thread Tyler Close
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Tyler Close wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:35:02 +0200, Jaka Jančar wrote: >

RE: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Pablo Castro
From: jor...@google.com [mailto:jor...@google.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Orlow Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:10 AM On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Pablo Castro wrote: From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Andrei Popescu Sent: Monday, July 1

RE: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Pablo Castro
From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:07 AM >> > Dynamic transactions: >> > I see that most folks would like to see these going away. While I like the >> > predictability and simplifications that we're able to make by using static >> > scopes for trans

Re: CfC: to publish new WD of CORS; deadline July 20

2010-07-14 Thread Dirk Pranke
That is correct (both that I volunteered and that I have not had time). I find myself home-bound for a couple days so I should be able to get something out to Anne for feedback by the end of the week. Apologies to all for the delay, -- Dirk On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Anne van Kesteren wr

Re: [cors] Unrestricted access

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Tyler Close wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:35:02 +0200, Jaka Jančar wrote: What I'd like is a global (per-host) way to disable thes

Re: [cors] Unrestricted access

2010-07-14 Thread Nathan
Tyler Close wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:35:02 +0200, Jaka Jančar wrote: What I'd like is a global (per-host) way to disable these limitations all at once, giving XHR unrestricte

Re: [cors] Unrestricted access

2010-07-14 Thread Tyler Close
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:35:02 +0200, Jaka Jančar wrote: >>> >>> What I'd like is a global (per-host) way to disable these limitations all >>> at once, giving XHR unrestricted acces

[IndexedDB]: typo in section 3.1.4

2010-07-14 Thread David Flanagan
Just a minor nit: in the 2nd sentence of 3.1.4, the spec uses "MAY" in red where I believe you mean just an ordinary non-normative "may". David Flanagan

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to propose that we update the current spec to reflect all >>> the changes we have agreement on. We

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to propose that we update the current spec to reflect all >> the changes we have agreement on. We can then iteratively review and >> make edits as soon as the r

Re: [IndexedDB] Cursors and modifications

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Andrei Popescu > wrote: > >> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Jonas Sicking > wrote:

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to propose that we update the current spec to reflect all > the changes we have agreement on. We can then iteratively review and > make edits as soon as the remaining issues are solved.  Concretely, I > would like to che

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Jeremy Orlow > wrote: > >> > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jonas Sicking > wrote

Re: [IndexedDB] Cursors and modifications

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Andrei Popescu >> >> wrote: >>

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: >> > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Jeremy Orlow >> >> wro

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread ben turner
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > For example, with dynamic transactions you can get into live-lock > situations. I'm particularly opposed to dynamic transactions for just this reason. We would clearly have to throw an exception or call the error callback if we detect liveloc

Re: [Web Storage] A couple questions about the storage spec

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I'm not sure if discussion on this normally happens on WebApps. whatwg might be the better place. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:33 PM, David John Burrowes < s...@davidjohnburrowes.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a couple questions about the storage spec (I'm reading the June 15th > version at (ht

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to propose that we update the current spec to reflect all > the changes we have agreement on. We can then iteratively review and > make edits as soon as the remaining issues are solved. Concretely, I > would like to ch

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hi, I would like to propose that we update the current spec to reflect all the changes we have agreement on. We can then iteratively review and make edits as soon as the remaining issues are solved. Concretely, I would like to check in a fix for http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9975

Re: [IndexedDB] Cursors and modifications

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Andrei Popescu > wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Jonas Sicking > wrote: > >>>

Re: [IndexedDB] Callback order

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Jeremy Orlow > wrote: > >> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jonas Sicking > wrote

Re: CfC: to publish new WD of CORS; deadline July 20

2010-07-14 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:50:26 +0200, Mark S. Miller wrote: Has anyone been working towards a revised Security Considerations section? Your Google colleague Dirk has volunteered but I believe has not yet had the time unfortunately. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/

[Bug 10165] New: IDBRequest.abort() should throw on non-read-only requests or simply be removed

2010-07-14 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10165 Summary: IDBRequest.abort() should throw on non-read-only requests or simply be removed Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status

Re: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Orlow > >> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Jonas Sicking > w

Re: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Orlow >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Orlow >> >

Re: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Orlow > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Orlow > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jonas Sicking

Re: [IndexedDB] IDBRequest.abort on writing requests

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jeremy Orlow >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremy Orlow >> >

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Pablo Castro wrote: > > From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] > On Behalf Of Andrei Popescu > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:23 AM > > Sorry I disappeared for a while. Catching up with this discussion was an > interesting exercis

Re: [IndexedDB] Current editor's draft

2010-07-14 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hi Pablo, First off, thanks for your comments! (Probably too much) details below. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Pablo Castro wrote: > > From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On > Behalf Of Andrei Popescu > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:23 AM > > Sorry I d