Re: [XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-23 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I agree that there are no legacy requirements on XHR here, however I don't think that that is the only thing that we should look at. We should also look at what makes the feature the most useful. A extreme counter-example

Re: [FileAPI, common] UTF-16 to UTF-8 conversion

2011-09-23 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:40:44 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: BlobBuilder.append(text) says: Appends the supplied text to the current contents of the BlobBuilder, writing it as UTF-8, converting newlines as specified in endings. It doesn't elaborate any further. The conversion

Re: [FileAPI] BlobBuilder.append(native)

2011-09-23 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:47:15 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: native Newlines must be transformed to the default line-ending representation of the underlying host filesystem. For example, if the underlying filesystem is FAT32, newlines would be transformed into \r\n pairs as the text

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Rich Tibbett
Marcos Caceres wrote: I've updated the Widget URI scheme spec, and it's now ready for publication as a new WD. Link for others is: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-uri What's new? I completely rewrote it. Now defines a dereferencing model that fakes HTTP responses (so hopefully now will

Re: [XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-23 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: Applying all the legacy text/html craziness Furthermore, applying full legacy text/html craziness involves parser restarts for GET requests. With a browsing context, that means renavigation, but I really don't want to support

Re: [FileAPI] BlobBuilder.append(native)

2011-09-23 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote: Can we get away with always using \n? Not if you want to be interoperable with native applications. You can't even open a text file in Notepad with Unix line endings. (Another reason underlying host filesystem doesn't

Re: [FileAPI] BlobBuilder.append(native)

2011-09-23 Thread Jarred Nicholls
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: native Newlines must be transformed to the default line-ending representation of the underlying host filesystem. For example, if the underlying filesystem is FAT32, newlines would be transformed into \r\n pairs as the text

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Mark Baker
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com wrote: I've updated the Widget URI scheme spec, and it's now ready for publication as a new WD. What's new? I completely rewrote it. Now defines a dereferencing model that fakes HTTP responses (so hopefully now will

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Friday, September 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Mark Baker wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com (mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com) wrote: Well, this is progress, but it seems the only difference now between widget: and http: is the authority. And if

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Mark Baker
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com (mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com) wrote: Well, this is progress, but it seems the only difference now between widget: and http: is the authority.

Re: [widgets] Killing file:// of evil (widget URI ready for pub)

2011-09-23 Thread Charles Pritchard
I've some strong reservations about expanding the scheme into dns-land. On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Mark Baker dist...@acm.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com

[Bug 14269] New: fg jdrt drt

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14269 Summary: fg jdrt drt Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: Other URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#int roduction-13

[Bug 14270] New: fg jdrt drt

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14270 Summary: fg jdrt drt Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: Other URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#int roduction-13

[Bug 14271] New: regerhsh ezer ge

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14271 Summary: regerhsh ezer ge Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: Other URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#int roduction-13

[Bug 14271] regerhsh ezer ge

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14271 Ross Nicoll j...@jrn.me.uk changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 14270] fg jdrt drt

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14270 Ross Nicoll j...@jrn.me.uk changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 14269] fg jdrt drt

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14269 Ross Nicoll j...@jrn.me.uk changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 14272] New: regerhsh ezer ge

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14272 Summary: regerhsh ezer ge Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: Other URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#int roduction-13

[Bug 14273] New: regerhsh ezer ge

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14273 Summary: regerhsh ezer ge Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: Other URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#int roduction-13

[Bug 14273] regerhsh ezer ge

2011-09-23 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14273 Ross Nicoll j...@jrn.me.uk changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: [XHR2] Avoiding charset dependencies on user settings

2011-09-23 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/23/11 4:26 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: Applying all the legacy text/html craziness to XHR could break current use of XHR to retrieve responseText of text/html resources (assuming that we want responseText for text/html work like responseText for XML in the sense that the same character

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, John J Barton wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote: I don't see why. Just have a wiki page that people can list their verbs on and then point to their documentation. I agree here. The standard is sufficient for stewardship.

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Aryeh, All - Aryeh's response below clarifies my last question about the relationship between the HTML Editing APIs CG and WebApps. I think the main points are: * The members of the HTML Editing APIs CG do not think the HTML Editing APIs spec is ready for Recommendation track (and I don't

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-23 01:40, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, James Hawkinsjhawk...@google.com wrote: When designing the format of the Web Intents action string, we got a lot of feedback that the java namespacing is not native to the web and that URLS would be a better

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/23/11 4:13 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Contrary to what you say, I don't see anybody confused by URI comparison when URIs are used as identifiers. If I had $1 for every time I wrote xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/; and $10 for every time I told someone their page was broken because

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-23 Thread Charles Pritchard
We're commenting on Aryeh's spec, he's the author, the copyright holder, and our comments to do not entitle us to any form of attribution. Expanded: For the sake of Aryeh's copyright on the working document, I'd like to remind everyone again, that their comments on the document will be

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: There's a decent chance that all of these are considered the same url by devs, and devs will probably attempt to use them.  I haven't even mentioned yet the presence/absence of www in urls. Contrary to what you say,

Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-23 Thread Adam Klein
Chromium (myself, Rafael Weinstein, Erik Arvidsson, Ryosuke Niwa) and Mozilla (Olli Pettay, Jonas Sicking) have worked together on a proposal for a replacement for Mutation Events. This proposal represents our best attempt to date at making a set of sensible trade offs which allows for a new

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-23 22:25, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/23/11 4:13 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Contrary to what you say, I don't see anybody confused by URI comparison when URIs are used as identifiers. If I had $1 for every time I wrote xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/; and $10 for every time I told

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/23/11 5:20 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: If I had $1 for every time I wrote xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/; and $10 for every time I told someone their page was broken because they'd done that, I'd get myself a vacation package... Namespace names are things I copy from templates and

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: Namespace names are things I copy from templates and never type from memory. Exactly, which means namespaces aren't memorable. The only reason to give up memorability is if you require the name to be both

Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-23 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Adam Klein ad...@chromium.org wrote: [Constructor(in MutationCallback callback)] interface MutationObserver {   void observe(in Node target, in MutationObserverOptions options);   void disconnect(); }; It would be nice to have both of these return the

Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-23 Thread Adam Klein
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Adam Klein ad...@chromium.org wrote: [Constructor(in MutationCallback callback)] interface MutationObserver {   void observe(in Node target, in MutationObserverOptions options);   void

Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events

2011-09-23 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Adam Klein ad...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Adam Klein ad...@chromium.org wrote: [Constructor(in MutationCallback callback)] interface MutationObserver {  

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-23 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 9/23/11 2:47 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Julian Reschkejulian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: Namespace names are things I copy from templates and never type from memory. Exactly, which means namespaces aren't memorable. The only reason to give up memorability is if