CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Yesterday Hixie closed several of the Web Sockets bugs mentioned in the e-mail below and he updated others. I think this now provides a basis to determine if we have consensus to publish a Candidate Recommendation. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Candidate Recommendation of

RfC: Content Security Policy 1.0 Last Call; deadline Aug 24

2012-07-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
WebApps has been asked to review the July 10 LCWD of WebAppSec's Content Security Policy 1.0 spec http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-CSP-20120710/. Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the Web Perf WG. If you have comments, please send them to the

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-11 15:11, Arthur Barstow wrote: Yesterday Hixie closed several of the Web Sockets bugs mentioned in the e-mail below and he updated others. I think this now provides a basis to determine if we have consensus to publish a Candidate Recommendation. As such, this is a Call for Consensus

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Edward O'Connor
Art wrote: As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets. Ship it! :) Ted

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Glenn Adams
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Edward O'Connor eocon...@apple.comwrote: Art wrote: As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets. Ship it! :) +1

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ojan Vafai
Another thing to consider if we add DOMTransaction back in is that you now need to specifiy what happens in more cases, e.g.: -call transact on the same DOMTransaction twice -call transact on a DOMTransaction then modify undo/redo listeners These are solvable problems, but are just more

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Another thing to consider if we add DOMTransaction back in is that you now need to specifiy what happens in more cases, e.g.: -call transact on the same DOMTransaction twice -call transact on a DOMTransaction then modify

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-11 20:25, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-07-11 15:44, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-07-11 15:11, Arthur Barstow wrote: Yesterday Hixie closed several of the Web Sockets bugs mentioned in the e-mail below and he updated others. I think this now provides a basis to determine if we have

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Arun Ranganathan
Glenn: On May 21, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Eric U er...@google.com wrote: According to the latest editor's draft [1], a File object must always return an accurate lastModifiedDate if at all possible. On getting, if user agents can make this

[Bug 17746] New: Specify Blob snapshots more robustly

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17746 Summary: Specify Blob snapshots more robustly Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Arun Ranganathan
Glenn, On May 22, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Kinuko Yasuda kin...@google.com wrote: In my understanding WebKit's behavior is querying the metadata / reading the content as lazy as possible, partly because the spec was/is ambiguous (especially

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On May 23, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Kinuko Yasuda kin...@chromium.org wrote: Just to make sure, I assume 'the underlying storage' includes memory. Right. For simple Blobs without a mutable backing store, all of this essentially optimizes

Re: [File API] Blob URI creation

2012-07-11 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On May 30, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On your main question, I've had the same thought in the past--a url property on Blob which simply creates a new auto-revoking blob URL. I didn't bring it up since I'm not sure if creating a URL for a blob is actually something you do so

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Another thing to consider if we add DOMTransaction back in is that you now need to specifiy what happens in more cases, e.g.: -call transact on the

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Another thing to consider if we add DOMTransaction back in is that you now need

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: Another

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Eric U
Agreed. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Arun Ranganathan aranganat...@mozilla.com wrote: On May 23, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Kinuko Yasuda kin...@chromium.org wrote: Just to make sure, I assume 'the underlying storage' includes memory.

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: We don't have this problem with the dictionary interface because we don't store the

Re: [UndoManager] Re-introduce DOMTransaction interface?

2012-07-11 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Ojan Vafai o...@chromium.org wrote: We don't

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Cameron McCormack
Arthur Barstow: 2. The patch [3] to remove the TreatNonCallableAsNull qualifier for some attributes. If anyone considers this change as substantive, please speak up. Cameron - what's your opinion on this? [TreatNonCallableAsNull] attribute Function? should be equivalent to attribute

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Julian Reschke wrote: OK; the amount of work is ~45 minutes (and probably can be automated for future publication cycles). See attachments; an edited version of the current editor's draft, and the diffs. ... ..and the diff was reversed; new version attached.

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Arun Ranganathan aranganat...@mozilla.comwrote: I agree that making snapshotting clearer might be a good idea. It is true that reading size and lastModifiedDate are synchronous, but this seemed a small trade-off compared to data reads. My instinct is that an

Re: [File API] File behavior under modification

2012-07-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Arun Ranganathan aranganat...@mozilla.com wrote: I agree that making snapshotting clearer might be a good idea. It is true that reading size and lastModifiedDate are synchronous, but this

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-12 01:52, Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Julian Reschke wrote: OK; the amount of work is ~45 minutes (and probably can be automated for future publication cycles). See attachments; an edited version of the current editor's draft, and the diffs. ... ..and the diff was

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: My interest was to demonstrate the problem, and to fix it for the pending publication. In the process of it, I also discovered that one term used in the spec is undefined. Except as you can see in the more helpful

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web Sockets API; deadline July 18

2012-07-11 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-12 07:16, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: My interest was to demonstrate the problem, and to fix it for the pending publication. In the process of it, I also discovered that one term used in the spec is undefined.