Re: Kickoff application manifest work

2013-06-18 Thread Marcos Caceres
Ping… anyone wanna work with me on this?


On Tuesday, 14 May 2013 at 11:47, Marcos Caceres wrote:

 While we transition the application manifest spec from SysApps to WebApps, 
 I'd like to kick off discussion by encouraging people to either discuss the 
 current proposal here or over on GitHub.  
  
 The current proposal can be found here:  
 http://manifest.sysapps.org/
  
 Repo is here:
 https://github.com/sysapps/manifest
  
 Things that we need to discuss:  
  
 * what's the problem we are trying to solve? (scope for the work).
 * what actual manifest properties are useful? are any missing?  
 * do any members need to be refactored to better meet the use cases?  
 * how do we associate a manifest with a web page?  
 * More open issues: https://github.com/sysapps/manifest/issues
  
 Following in the footsteps of Navigation Controller and DOM Futures, it would 
 be ideal to have a core group of individuals helping out with this effort. If 
 you want to be part of a core team, please let me know and I can add you on 
 GitHub (or just add your self to watch the repository on 
 https://github.com/sysapps/manifest) and file bugs/ask questions as you see 
 fit.  
  
 If you want to discuss the proposal directly with me, I'm marcosc IRC on both 
 freenode (#whatwg) and w3c (#webapps).  
  
 Kind regards,
 Marcos  
  
  
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[Bug 21137] Define key names for game controller of Android

2013-06-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21137

Gary Kacmarcik gary...@google.com changed:

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  Component|DOM3 Events |UI Events
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[Bug 21083] Proposal key names for Android

2013-06-18 Thread bugzilla
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Gary Kacmarcik gary...@google.com changed:

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[Bug 21121] Define mobile phone related keys

2013-06-18 Thread bugzilla
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Gary Kacmarcik gary...@google.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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   ||public-webapps@w3.org
  Component|DOM3 Events |UI Events
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[Bug 21120] Define TV or A/V remote controller's keys

2013-06-18 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21120

Gary Kacmarcik gary...@google.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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[Bug 21136] Define Home key and Back key of Android smartphone

2013-06-18 Thread bugzilla
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Travis Leithead [MSFT] tra...@microsoft.com changed:

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  Component|DOM3 Events |UI Events
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--- Comment #1 from Travis Leithead [MSFT] tra...@microsoft.com ---
Moving to UI Events until we define an extension doc for specific device keys
like Android Smartphone.

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Re: Kickoff application manifest work

2013-06-18 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Marcos Caceres mcace...@mozilla.com wrote:
 The current proposal can be found here:
 http://manifest.sysapps.org/

I wonder to what extent we actually need a manifest. I think it's main
benefit might be in grouping a set of pages, but whether that needs to
be via a manifest I'm less sure about.

A requirement that keeps coming back for web applications (i.e. those
served in a browser over HTTP, such as https://www.twitter.com/ ) is
that multiple of them per origin should be supported. Reasoning for
this is simplicity of deploying new applications and to some extent to
reduce the number of DNS queries for a suite of applications. Downside
of that approach is increased attack surface for a suite applications
and no trivial boundary between them (given a URL it's not clear to
which application it belongs).

Navigation Controller solves the grouping of a set of pages using an
origin plus wildcard matching for a set of URLs, although as currently
proposed a subset of those URLs might be something else altogether
again, without much declarative control.

For event pages/workers you'll want something similar. To identify
what a URL's associated event page/worker is.

It might be though that maybe we should put the boundary for
applications on the web on the origin level. It would certainly be
extremely convenient and allow for a whole bunch of simplifications.


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