[Bug 24573] New: Clarify non-null Blob

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24573 Bug ID: 24573 Summary: Clarify non-null Blob Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 24573] Clarify non-null Blob

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24573 Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Re: Update on Streams API Status

2014-02-07 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Feras Moussa feras.mou...@hotmail.com wrote: In addition to the base Stream spec, the remaining platform-specific pieces which do not fit into the shared-base spec will live in an independent spec. This includes things such as support in other APIs (XHR,

[Bug 24576] New: Calling URL.createObjectURL() on a closed Blob

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24576 Bug ID: 24576 Summary: Calling URL.createObjectURL() on a closed Blob Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: Windows NT Status: NEW

[Bug 24577] New: [Custom]: Need adopted callback

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24577 Bug ID: 24577 Summary: [Custom]: Need adopted callback Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 24578] New: [Custom]: define registry primitive

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24578 Bug ID: 24578 Summary: [Custom]: define registry primitive Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 24579] New: [Custom]: make callbacks more explicit

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24579 Bug ID: 24579 Summary: [Custom]: make callbacks more explicit Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 24557] [Shadow]: The definition of focus navigation is misleading.

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24557 Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 15417] Redirects and the base URL

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15417 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Olli Pettay
Hi all, I wonder what people think of if we started to rather aggressively deprecate the horrible API main-thread sync XHR? Currently its usage is still way too high (up to 2% based on telemetry data), but if all the browsers warned about use of deprecated feature, we might be able to get

RE: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Domenic Denicola
From: Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi And at least we'd improve responsiveness of those websites which stop using sync XHR because of the warning. I think this is a great point that makes such an effort worthwhile even if it ends up not leading to euthanizing sync XHR.

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
On 2/7/14 5:56 PM, Domenic Denicola wrote: I think this is a great point that makes such an effort worthwhile even if it ends up not leading to euthanizing sync XHR. I am all for it. Cheers, David -- David Rajchenbach-Teller, PhD Performance Team, Mozilla

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Agreed. I think for this to be effective we need to get multiple browser vendors being willing to add such a warning. We would also need to add text to the various versions of the spec (whatwg and w3c). For what it's worth,

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Scott González
What about developers who are sending requests as the page is unloading? My understanding is that sync requests are required. Is this not the case? On Friday, February 7, 2014, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote:

RE: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Travis Leithead
As I understand it, that is one of the scenarios covered by the recently proposed Beacon API: http://www.w3.org/TR/beacon/ Sent from my Windows Phone From: Scott González Sent: 2/7/2014 9:33 AM To: Anne van Kesteren Cc: Jonas Sicking; Domenic Denicola;

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/7/14 12:32 PM, Scott González wrote: What about developers who are sending requests as the page is unloading? Does Beacon address their use cases? If not, what are the use cases? -Boris

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Olli Pettay
On 02/07/2014 07:32 PM, Scott González wrote: What about developers who are sending requests as the page is unloading? My understanding is that sync requests are required. Is this not the case? We need sendBeacon asap, and browsers could start warn first when sync XHR is used outside unload

Re: [File System APIs] If one is good, then two must be better?

2014-02-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 1/31/14 10:21 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: * Do we want to continue both efforts (and thus reflect this in the charter update)? Given the feedback on this thread, I don't think there is consensus to only focus on one API so I added the Mozilla FileSystem API spec to the set of File

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
As a side-note, it may be interesting to warn also that synchronous XHR has different semantics between browsers so is not a good choice anyway. Cheers, David On 2/7/14 6:18 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Agreed. I think for this to be effective we need to get multiple browser vendors being willing

[Bug 24583] New: [imports]: failed fetch should result null document in import list

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24583 Bug ID: 24583 Summary: [imports]: failed fetch should result null document in import list Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: Linux

[Bug 21650] Require that XHR is available in workers

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21650 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

RE: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Feb 7, 2014 8:57 AM, Domenic Denicola dome...@domenicdenicola.com wrote: From: Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi And at least we'd improve responsiveness of those websites which stop using sync XHR because of the warning. I think this is a great point that makes such an effort

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Scott González scott.gonza...@gmail.com wrote: What about developers who are sending requests as the page is unloading? My understanding is that sync requests are required. Is this not the case? Besides the proposed Beacon API, if you don't need to do a POST then

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Feb 7, 2014 8:57 AM, Domenic Denicola dome...@domenicdenicola.com wrote: From: Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi And at least we'd improve responsiveness of those websites which stop using sync XHR because of

[Bug 24586] New: Remove FileList

2014-02-07 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24586 Bug ID: 24586 Summary: Remove FileList Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread James Greene
There are certain situations where sync XHRs are, in fact, required... unless we make other accommodations. For example, in the Clipboard API, developers are allowed to inject into the clipboard as a semi-trusted event during the event handling phase of certain user-initiated events (e.g.

Re: Officially deprecating main-thread synchronous XHR?

2014-02-07 Thread Olli Pettay
On 02/08/2014 03:19 AM, James Greene wrote: There are certain situations where sync XHRs are, in fact, required... unless we make other accommodations. For example, in the Clipboard API, developers are allowed to inject into the clipboard as a semi-trusted event during the event handling phase