Re: Write-only form fields (was Re: Proposal for a credential management API.)

2014-08-01 Thread Mike West
Thanks Jacob! On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jacob S Hoffman-Andrews wrote: > I think the CSP directive is unnecessary and makes things more fragile. The > 'protect this credential from XSS' attribute should be a property of a > stored credential, not a web site. If the site has the correct CSP

[Bug 26502] New: Need to define UIEvent or link to where it's normatively defined

2014-08-01 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26502 Bug ID: 26502 Summary: Need to define UIEvent or link to where it's normatively defined Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: All

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:39 AM, wrote: > Spinner is not sufficient. All user activity must stop. They can take a > coffee break if it takes too long. Browser must be frozen and locked down > completely. No other options are desirable. All tabs, menus, etc. must be > frozen. That is exactly

Re: Write-only form fields (was Re: Proposal for a credential management API.)

2014-08-01 Thread Jacob S Hoffman-Andrews
Your proposal decouples spec from implementation more than the placeholder approach does, which is good. I think the CSP directive is unnecessary and makes things more fragile. The 'protect this credential from XSS' attribute should be a property of a stored credential, not a web site. If the

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread nmork_consultant
If you use your tab key, you will discover that you will need to disable all controls under your spinner to prevent user input completely. Kind of a lot of work to get exactly the effect that sync requests do for you. I find sync xmlhttprequests useful and you don't, it's clear. But instead o

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 8/1/14, 9:39 AM, nmork_consult...@cusa.canon.com wrote: All tabs, menus, etc. must be frozen. Sync XHR doesn't do that. -Boris

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread François REMY
From: nmork_consult...@cusa.canon.com Thank you for letting me know my input is not desired. No, not at all. I think many engineers reading this list are truly delighted to have seen your message. Some of us are also very sad, but I would argue that all of us who have a good sense of humor are

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Aug 1, 2014 8:49 AM, wrote: > > Thank you for letting me know my input is not desired. All input is definitely desired, but you seem to either not fully understand what async XHR does, or are ascribing greater functionality to sync XHR than it actually possesses. So far you have not described

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Brian Kardell
On Aug 1, 2014 9:52 AM, wrote: > > Thank you for letting me know my input is not desired. > As Tab said, you can visually and functionally lock user input in your tab and even provide a progress meter. Nothing you suggest is difficult with a sync xhr and promises, and it's less hostile. How is th

Re: Write-only form fields (was Re: Proposal for a credential management API.)

2014-08-01 Thread Mike West
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Brian Smith wrote: > There is some tension here between making things password-specific and > simple vs. making them general and harder to understand. Defining this > as a mechanism to protect only passwords keeps it simple. But, it > seems wrong to have a way to p

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread nmork_consultant
Thank you for letting me know my input is not desired. From: "Tab Atkins Jr." To: nmork_consult...@cusa.canon.com, Cc: public-webapps Date: 08/01/2014 06:46 AM Subject:Re: =[xhr] On Aug 1, 2014 8:39 AM, wrote: > > Spinner is not sufficient. All user activity must sto

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Aug 1, 2014 8:39 AM, wrote: > > Spinner is not sufficient. All user activity must stop. They can take a coffee break if it takes too long. Browser must be frozen and locked down completely. No other options are desirable. All tabs, menus, etc. must be frozen. That is exactly the desired

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread nmork_consultant
Spinner is not sufficient. All user activity must stop. They can take a coffee break if it takes too long. Browser must be frozen and locked down completely. No other options are desirable. All tabs, menus, etc. must be frozen. That is exactly the desired result. From: "Tab Atkins Jr

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Aug 1, 2014 8:16 AM, wrote: > > In this case, a freeze on all browser operations is desirable. The thread cannot be interrupted, and if it is interrupted (by browser closure or other such) then the transactions are immediately stopped and no update will occur (this is the most desirable outcom

Re: Write-only form fields (was Re: Proposal for a credential management API.)

2014-08-01 Thread Brian Smith
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Mike West wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Brian Smith wrote: >> particular, if we are worried about XSS stealing passwords then we >> have to consider the possibility that XSS has inserted a form without >> any httponly attributes being used, right? > > C

Re: =[xhr]

2014-08-01 Thread nmork_consultant
In this case, a freeze on all browser operations is desirable. The thread cannot be interrupted, and if it is interrupted (by browser closure or other such) then the transactions are immediately stopped and no update will occur (this is the most desirable outcome.) Async is not desirable, sin

Re: Proposal for a credential management API.

2014-08-01 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Mike, On 31/07/2014 09:48 , Mike West wrote: It's not clear to me that WebApps is the right venue from a process perspective, but this is almost certainly the right group of people to evaluate the proposal. Thanks in advance for your feedback, suggestions, and time. :) As you know I think t

Write-only form fields (was Re: Proposal for a credential management API.)

2014-08-01 Thread Mike West
Forking this out into a separate thread, as I think it's a great idea, but tangential to the original proposal. :) TL;DR: I put together a strawman based on these suggestions which defines a 'writeonly' attribute on HTMLInputElement: http://projects.mikewest.org/credentialmanagement/writeonly/, WD

[Bug 26493] Null dereference in exitFullscreen()

2014-08-01 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26493 Philip Jägenstedt changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug 26493] New: Null dereference in exitFullscreen()

2014-08-01 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26493 Bug ID: 26493 Summary: Null dereference in exitFullscreen() Product: WebAppsWG Version: unspecified Hardware: PC OS: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal

[Bug 26480] Author style max-width/height can interfere with style

2014-08-01 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26480 Anne changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---