PSA: public-webapps-github archives WebApps' Github activity

2014-11-25 Thread Arthur Barstow

[ Bcc: public-editing-tf ]

TL;DR: if you want to receive an e-mail notification for Webapps' spec 
related activity on Github, subscribe to the new public-webapps-github 
list [p-w-g].


Thanks to Robin's idea and Yves' perseverance, the new p-w-g list gets 
an e-mail for all of WebApps' GH activity. The following spec repos are 
now watched:


heycam/webidl
slightlyoff/ServiceWorker
w3c/FileAPIv2
w3c/editing-explainer
w3c/manifest
w3c/packaged-webapps
w3c/permissions
w3c/push-api
w3c/screen-orientation
w3c/selection-api
w3c/webcomponents
whatwg/streams

If any of WebApps' other spec repos are missing, please let me know and 
I will add a watch for them.


Note: This list is primarily for archival purposes. It should *not* be 
used for discussion purposes.


The RSS feed for this list is [RSS].

-Thanks, AB

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RE: [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-25 Thread David Walp
Apologies for being a late comer to the discussion, but here is some feedback 
in our implementation.  We're looking forward to engaging on these interactions 
more proactively in the future.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:55 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:

 Now to get to what I personally am most interested in: identifying 
 changes to the expected test results, and therefore to the URL 
 specification -- independent of the approach that specification takes 
 to describing parsing. To kick off the discussion, here are three examples:

 1) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/7357a04b5b
 
 A number of browsers, namely Internet Explorer, Opera(Presto), and 
 Safari seem to be of the opinion that exposing passwords is a bad 
 idea. I suggest that this is a defensible position, and that the 
 specification should either standardize on this approach or at a minimum 
 permit this.

Yes, we, Microsoft, are of the opinion that exposing passwords is a bad idea.  
Based on received feedback, customers agree and I suspect our customers are not 
unique on this opinion.

 2) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/4b60e32190

 This is not a valid URL syntax, nor does any browser vendor implement 
 it.  I think it is fairly safe to say that given this state that there 
 isn't a wide corpus of existing web content that depends on it.  I'd 
 suggest that the specification be modified to adopt the behavior that 
 Chrome, Internet Explorer, and
 Opera(Presto) implement.

Agreed.  Standardizing something not used that is not in anyone's interest.  
What you have posted on Github:  
https://github.com/rubys/url/tree/peg.js/reference-implementation#readme .. I 
found I had a hard time determining what should be the parsing output for a 
number of cases. rings true here. There is no advantage to adding complexity 
when it is not required.  

 3) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/61a4a14209
 
 This is an example of a problem that Anne is currently wrestling with. 
 Note in particular the result produced by Chrome, which identifies the 
 host as a IPV4 address and canonicalizes it.

This is the type of interop issue we think should be a focus of the URL 
specification and the W3C efforts.  

Finally we are focused at identifying and fixing real-world interop bugs that 
we see in live sites in support our goal of The web should just work 
(http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/05/27/launching-status-modern-ie-amp-internet-explorer-platform-priorities.aspx).
 For example, I think you had at one time listed an IE issue in the discussion 
section of the URL spec - 
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/url.html#discuss.  This bug was related 
to a missing / at the front of URLs under certain conditions.  Since this 
issue has been removed from the discussion section, I am hoping you have seen 
that we have fixed the issue.  We are actively pursuing and fixing similar 
interop bugs.  We want the URL spec to be source of interop behavior and 
believe that our goal is in line with your direction.

Cheers,
_dave_



Re: [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-25 Thread Sam Ruby

On 11/25/2014 03:52 PM, David Walp wrote:

Apologies for being a late comer to the discussion, but here is some
feedback in our implementation.  We're looking forward to engaging on
these interactions more proactively in the future.


Thanks!  Looking forward to it!

Can I ask that you either open an issue or a bug (it matters not which 
to me) on each of these items.


https://github.com/webspecs/url/issues
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=WHATWGcomponent=URL

Feel free to link back to your original post on this topic in the 
issue/bug reports:


http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014OctDec/0505.html

I also actively encourage pull requests, so if you care to propose a 
change, I encourage you to do so.


Finally, I've expanded that list since October.  Here's a few more 
topics that you might want to weigh in on:


http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/url.html#discuss

And by all means, don't stop there!

- Sam Ruby


On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:55 PM, Sam Ruby
ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:


Now to get to what I personally am most interested in: identifying
changes to the expected test results, and therefore to the URL
specification -- independent of the approach that specification
takes to describing parsing. To kick off the discussion, here are
three examples:

1)
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/7357a04b5b

A number of browsers, namely Internet Explorer, Opera(Presto), and
Safari seem to be of the opinion that exposing passwords is a bad
idea. I suggest that this is a defensible position, and that the
specification should either standardize on this approach or at a
minimum permit this.


Yes, we, Microsoft, are of the opinion that exposing passwords is a
bad idea.  Based on received feedback, customers agree and I suspect
our customers are not unique on this opinion.


2)
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/4b60e32190

This is not a valid URL syntax, nor does any browser vendor
implement it.  I think it is fairly safe to say that given this
state that there isn't a wide corpus of existing web content that
depends on it.  I'd suggest that the specification be modified to
adopt the behavior that Chrome, Internet Explorer, and
Opera(Presto) implement.


Agreed.  Standardizing something not used that is not in anyone's
interest.  What you have posted on Github:
https://github.com/rubys/url/tree/peg.js/reference-implementation#readme
.. I found I had a hard time determining what should be the parsing
output for a number of cases. rings true here. There is no advantage
to adding complexity when it is not required.


3)
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/61a4a14209

This is an example of a problem that Anne is currently wrestling
with. Note in particular the result produced by Chrome, which
identifies the host as a IPV4 address and canonicalizes it.


This is the type of interop issue we think should be a focus of the
URL specification and the W3C efforts.

Finally we are focused at identifying and fixing real-world interop
bugs that we see in live sites in support our goal of The web should
just work
(http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/05/27/launching-status-modern-ie-amp-internet-explorer-platform-priorities.aspx).
For example, I think you had at one time listed an IE issue in the
discussion section of the URL spec -
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/url.html#discuss.  This bug
was related to a missing / at the front of URLs under certain
conditions.  Since this issue has been removed from the discussion
section, I am hoping you have seen that we have fixed the issue.  We
are actively pursuing and fixing similar interop bugs.  We want the
URL spec to be source of interop behavior and believe that our goal
is in line with your direction.

Cheers, _dave_





[Bug 27437] New: [Custom]: Be clear about whether attached callback should be enqueued when setting prototype

2014-11-25 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27437

Bug ID: 27437
   Summary: [Custom]: Be clear about whether attached callback
should be enqueued when setting prototype
   Product: WebAppsWG
   Version: unspecified
  Hardware: PC
OS: All
Status: NEW
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: Component Model
  Assignee: dglaz...@chromium.org
  Reporter: wc...@mozilla.com
QA Contact: public-webapps-bugzi...@w3.org
CC: m...@w3.org, public-webapps@w3.org
Blocks: 14968

http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#dfn-created-callback:

The custom element prototype must be set just prior to invoking callback.

If the created callback exists for an element, all other callbacks must not be
enqueued until after this created callback's invocation had started.

In the steps to set the custom element prototype we have:

http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#dfn-set-prototype

3.1. Enqueue attached callback for ELEMENT

There is instruction to enqueue an attached callback and instruction to not
enqueue the attached callback because it happens before invoking the created
callback.

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