Re: File API to separate reading from files

2009-08-31 Thread イアンフェッティ
I would like to make another plug for http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/fileio/fileIO.htm This had the notion of writing files, file streams, directories, and being able to integrate into the host filesystem. All of these are important for reasons I outlined in

Re: Web Notifications, do we need a new spec?

2009-09-04 Thread イアンフェッティ
We are in the middle of implementing in WebKit and in Chromium, so yes we are still interested in pursuing. John Gregg (johnnyg@) has been leading the effort from our end. Beyond an implementation that people can experiment with, what sort of resources are you looking for? 2009/9/4 Marcos Caceres

Re: CfC: to publish new WDs of Server-sent Events, Web {Database, Sockets API, Storage, Workers}; deadline 26 October

2009-10-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
I also support publishing a new WD on all of these. 2009/10/23 Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Fine for all except WebDatabase. I notice that its present ED is virtually the same as its FPWD (modulo a new section on data sensitivity).

Re: Use Cases and Requirements for Saving Files Securely

2009-11-12 Thread イアンフェッティ
This is really getting into fantasy-land... Writing a file and hoping that the user actually opens up explorer/finder/whatever and browses to some folder deep within the profile directory, and then double clicks something? Telling a user click here and run blah to get a pony is so much easier.

Re: Use Cases and Requirements for Saving Files Securely

2009-11-12 Thread イアンフェッティ
2009/11/12 Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc 2009/11/12 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com: This is really getting into fantasy-land... Writing a file and hoping that the user actually opens up explorer/finder/whatever and browses to some folder deep within the profile directory

Re: Steps to creating a browser standard for the moz-icon:// scheme

2010-01-28 Thread イアンフェッティ
It's interesting to note that on most modern OSes (Mac OS X, Vista, Win 7 ...) the OS actually does create a pre-computed high quality icon for many files, e.g. images, PDF, Word, Photoshop, It is almost free to get this from the OS, and the OS also has 3 default sizes for it. It would be

Re: Steps to creating a browser standard for the moz-icon:// scheme

2010-01-28 Thread イアンフェッティ
2010/1/28 Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: It's interesting to note that on most modern OSes (Mac OS X, Vista, Win 7 ...) the OS actually does create a pre-computed high quality icon for many files, e.g. images, PDF, Word, Photoshop

Re: Steps to creating a browser standard for the moz-icon:// scheme

2010-02-01 Thread イアンフェッティ
, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Pierre-Antoine LaFayette wrote: 2010/1/29 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com 2010/1/28 Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: It's interesting to note that on most modern OSes (Mac OS X, Vista, Win 7 ...) the OS

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
This thread seems to have languished, and I'm trying to figure out how to move forward here. My understanding, grossly simplified, of the current state of the world is this: 1. Some people have a desire to show HTML / interactive notifications, to support use cases like remind me of this

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Schepers W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote (on 2/23/10 1:06 PM): This thread seems to have languished, and I'm trying to figure out how to move forward here. My understanding, grossly simplified, of the current state of the world is this: 1. Some people have

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com wrote: CreateInteractiveNotification(in DOMString text-fallback, [Optional] in DOMString MimeType1, [Optional] in DOMString NotificationFormat1

Re: Notifications

2010-02-23 Thread イアンフェッティ
Am 23. Februar 2010 13:44 schrieb Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc: 2010/2/23 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com: Am 23. Februar 2010 12:11 schrieb Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:20:13 +0100, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com wrote

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-02 Thread イアンフェッティ
http://www.w3.org/TR/file-writer-api/ On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Cristiano Sumariva sumar...@gmail.comwrote: I have been reading the specification on file section. I would like to ask why not propose that File interface allow a create method to let user save data for his use? Resume:

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-02 Thread イアンフェッティ
... / Jonas 2010/6/2 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com: http://www.w3.org/TR/file-writer-api/ On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Cristiano Sumariva sumar...@gmail.com wrote: I have been reading the specification on file section. I would like to ask why not propose that File interface allow

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-02 Thread イアンフェッティ
and attention from browser companies on WebApps. Apple isn't on DAP at all, and everyone from mozilla that works on related APIs are not on the DAP list (I don't have time to join another list, I imagine the same holds true for others though I'm not sure). / Jonas 2010/6/2 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-02 Thread イアンフェッティ
Also, for the sake of keeping things together, when we move this over we should probably move FileSystem over as well. -Ian On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.comwrote: I'm reaching out to some W3C team contacts to figure out logistics. -Ian On Wed, Jun 2

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-03 Thread イアンフェッティ
Were it not for file* I, and perhaps Google as a whole, would likely leave DAP (though I cannot speak for everyone). Nothing else there is of interest to me right now. On Jun 3, 2010 4:13 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 23:02 , Jonas Sicking wrote: I don't know who

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-03 Thread イアンフェッティ
Actually, I should take that back. Some of the device specs are definitely relevant, though I have concerns about the direction they are heading. Either way though, it seems strange for the filesystem apis to be split. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.comwrote

Re: HTML5 File

2010-06-04 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Jun 3, 2010, at 19:29 , Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: Actually, I should take that back. Some of the device specs are definitely relevant Right, and some of your colleagues just submitted Powerbox there, which seems like

Re: FileSystem API - overwrite flag for copy/move?

2010-09-09 Thread イアンフェッティ
I think recursive copy/remove is a very valid use case. As for overwrite, is a flag necessary? On most OSes you already get overwrite as the default behaviour (at least from APIs, many interactive UAs such as Explorer on windows will prompt), is there a compelling argument why it should be

Re: Quota API to query/request quota for offline storages (e.g. IndexedDB, FileSystem)

2011-02-03 Thread イアンフェッティ
I'm not sure FileSystem is necessarily any trickier from a user's perspective -- it's all storage that is taking up space on my HD (at least, for now the filesystem is just a directory under the user's profile in Chrome). I think it fits fine in the unified quota model. (And FWIW we are looking at

Re: Quota API to query/request quota for offline storages (e.g. IndexedDB, FileSystem)

2011-02-03 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@visc.us wrote: On 2/3/2011 9:39 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: I'm not sure FileSystem is necessarily any trickier from a user's perspective -- it's all storage that is taking up space on my HD (at least, for now the filesystem

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-21 Thread イアンフェッティ
Ian, I understand this point of view. That said, there is a lot of disagreement in the IETF WG about deflate-stream. The extension basically breaks all other extensions, framing, etc. It's a bit of a mess and a lot of us want to just yank it out entirely. There was a much better proposal by

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-27 Thread イアンフェッティ
We are talking about it at IETF81 this week. That said, I think either way browsers should not require deflate-stream. I am hoping we can make forward progress on deflate-application-data ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tyoshino-hybi-websocket-perframe-deflate-01). If we can get that through

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-27 Thread イアンフェッティ
document as opposed to being the only extension included in the core specification as a known extension. -Ian 2011/7/27 James Robinson jam...@google.com On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.comwrote: We are talking about it at IETF81 this week. That said, I

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-27 Thread イアンフェッティ
of extensions that are well tested, such as compression and multiplexing). I don't think we should put the cart before the horse. -Ian 2011/7/27 James Robinson jam...@google.com On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.comwrote: I don't think we want to forbid any

Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-19 Thread イアンフェッティ
I'm forwarding this on behalf of a colleague whose message seems caught up in a moderation queue. Apologies if it results in a duplicate message for anyone. -- Forwarded message -- From: James Hawkins jhawk...@google.com Date: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:27 PM Subject: Adding Web

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread イアンフェッティ
With all due respect, I think that if we have to re-charter or create a new working group each time a new API comes up we are all doomed. The overhead of creating and monitoring so many WGs is not appealing to many of us. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread イアンフェッティ
and be a hell of a lot lower overhead, while effectively offering as much (or rather, as little) benefit as we get from being forced to start a new group for each API. -Ian On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi Ian, On Sep 20, 2011, at 16:04 , Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: Hi Charles, On Sep 20, 2011, at 17:15 , Charles Pritchard wrote: There is certainly some overlap between DAP and WebApps. Is that the issue here, Robin? If you ask me, there isn't any issue at all :) James suggested

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com (mailto: ro...@berjon.com) wrote: Hi Charles, On Sep 20, 2011, at 17:15

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-20 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) wrote: While issuing a ton of patent exclusions for something like this would be rather poor, I would frankly rather have that then a spec that doesn't get

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-10-04 Thread イアンフェッティ
Circling back to the original topic, it seems like there's a good amount of interest and opinions, and that the spec would probably benefit from the input of the people in this WG, especially since multiple platforms are all shipping something similar in approach (android intents, contracts in

Re: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. Top-posting

2012-05-29 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Jean-Claude Dufourd jean-claude.dufo...@telecom-paristech.fr wrote: On 29/5/12 17:56 , Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-05-29 16:53, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at

Re: [admin] Mail List Policy, Usage, Etiquette, etc. Top-posting

2012-05-29 Thread イアンフェッティ
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Karl Dubost ka...@opera.com wrote: Le 29 mai 2012 à 12:59, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) a écrit : And your modified reply causes GMail not to collapse the replied-to text seems to be a GMail issue. […] resolved by using an up-to-date MUA. Dare putting a list

Re: Beacon API

2013-02-15 Thread イアンフェッティ
Anne, Both Chrome and Safari support the ping attribute. I am not sure about IE, I believe Firefox has it disabled by default. FWIW I wouldn't consider this a huge failure, if anything I'd expect over time people to use ping where it's supported and fallback where it's not, resulting in the same

Re: IndexedDB, what were the issues? How do we stop it from happening again?

2013-03-06 Thread イアンフェッティ
I seem to recall we contemplated people writing libraries on top of IDB from the beginning. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing. We originally shipped web sql / sqlite, which was a familiar interface for many and relatively easy to use, but had a sufficiently large API surface area that no one

Re: Writing spec algorithms in ES6?

2015-06-11 Thread イアンフェッティ
To be honest this always drove me nuts when we were trying to do WebSockets. Having code is great for conformance tests, but a spec IMO should do a good job of setting out preconditions, postconditions, performance guarantees (e.g. STL algorithms specifying runtime complexity) and error handling.