Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/19/11 1:56 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you please explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and WebApps vis-à-vis the Editing spec? In

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks for your clarifications Aryeh. One follow-up below re contributions to the Editing spec ... On 9/22/11 12:43 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote: It seems to me, that by virtue of using public-webapps, it does give

Re: [editing] Using public-webapps for editing discussion

2011-09-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Aryeh, All - Aryeh's response below clarifies my last question about the relationship between the HTML Editing APIs CG and WebApps. I think the main points are: * The members of the HTML Editing APIs CG do not think the HTML Editing APIs spec is ready for Recommendation track (and I don't

Re: Proposal to add Mouse Lock to the Web Events Working Group

2011-09-25 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Vincent, All - given there were no negative comments regarding Vincent's proposal, Doug and I will work toward updating WebEvents' charter to add the Mouse Lock API. Additionally, as indicated in [1], we will also work toward adding the Gamepad API [2] (formerly know as the Joystick API)

CfI: Progress Events is a W3C Candidate Recommendation

2011-09-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is Call for Implementation for the Progress Events spec. Anne, Ms2ger, what is the status of the Progress Events test suite (e.g. % complete)? http://w3c-test.org/webapps/ProgressEvents/tests/ Original Message Subject: Progress Events is a W3C Candidate

Publishing specs before TPAC; Oct 14 is last day to start a CfC

2011-09-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
The upcoming TPAC meeting (Oct 31 - Nov 01) provides an opportunity for joint WG meetings and lots of informal sharing. As such, some groups make spec publications right before TPAC. Note there is a 2-week publication blackout period around the TPAC week and Oct 24 is the last day to request

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline October 18

2011-09-27 Thread Arthur Barstow
On September 27 a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-WebIDL-20110927/ The deadline for comments is October 18 and all comments should be sent to: public-script-co...@w3.org The comment tracking doc for the previous LC is:

[webstorage] Back to LC? [Was] RfC: LCWD of Web Storage; deadline September 27

2011-09-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
/Overview.html.diff?r1=1.181;r2=1.182;f=h On 9/6/11 10:19 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: A new LCWD of Web Storage was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-webstorage-20110901/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by September 27.

[workers] Back to LC? [Was: RfC: LCWD of Web Workers; deadline September 27]

2011-09-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
27 Resent-Date:Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:21:11 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:20:49 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org A new LCWD of Web Workers was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD

RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-09-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by October 21.

Reminder: RfC: LCWD of Touch Events version 1; deadline October 11

2011-10-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/13/11 1:32 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 13, the Web Events WG published a LCWD of the Touch Events version 1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-Touch-Events-20110913/ That WG explicitly asked the WebApps WG for comments. Individual WG members are encouraged to provide

Re: Fwd: W3C Workshop on the Future of Offline Web Applications (Call for Participation)

2011-10-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
The deadline for Position Papers is now October 12. On 9/9/11 5:09 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Speaking of application caches and widgets, below is an announcement about a Future of Offline Web Applications workshop on Saturday November 5 in Redwood City CA US: http://www.w3.org/2011/web

Re: Joint meeting of the CSS/WebApps/WebFonts WGs

2011-10-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ + WebAppSec WG ] I included the WebAppSec WG since CORS is now a joint deliverable of WebApps and WebAppSec. (CORS is generically named Secure Cross-Domain Resource Sharing in their charter [1].) If we are going to have a joint meeting, I have a strong preference for October 31. WebApps

Re: Generic guide to exceptions, events, etc. for new APIs Re: [indexeddb] New WebIDL Exception Model for IndexedDB

2011-10-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/6/11 12:16 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: On Monday, October 3, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Arun Ranganathan wrote: (generally speaking...) Seems there is a lot of confusion about how to do this properly (and I'm seeing that this is going to now be an issue amongst a number of groups, including

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-10-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ + DAPI Chairs and Team Contact ] Hi Ian, All - for now, I think it is OK to use public-webapps for *technical* discussions regarding James' proposal. Let's plan to continue the charter-related part of this discussion during WebApp's TPAC meeting. I added it to the Monday October 31

Spec changes for LCs and later maturity levels [Was: Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21]

2011-10-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/5/11 3:15 AM, ext Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29, aLCWD of Web Sockets API was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-websockets-20110929/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by October 21. I just noted

Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-10-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
elaborate on this change? -AB [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/0125.html [2] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/websockets/Overview.html.diff?r1=1.246;r2=1.247;f=h On 10/5/11 3:15 AM, ext Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-29 18:28, Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 29

CfC: adding Mutation Observers to DOM4; deadline Oct 14 [Was: Re: Mutation Observers: a replacement for DOM Mutation Events]

2011-10-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/6/11 9:11 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/30/11 3:40 PM, ext Ms2ger wrote: On 09/29/2011 04:32 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Adam- I'm glad to see some progress on a replacement for Mutation Events. Would you be interested in being the editor for this spec? It's already in our

Re: Spec changes for LCs and later maturity levels [Was: Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21]

2011-10-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: In [1], Julian asks about Web Socket API rev 1.247 [2], the change that adds the Parsing WebSocket URLs section (CVS comment Revert the part of r5409 that removed the URL parsing algorithms, since it's no longer defined in the protocol spec. (whatwg r6632)). Would

CfC: publish new WD of Server-Sent Events; deadline Oct 16

2011-10-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus to publish a WD of Server-Sent Events (last published 10-Mar-2011): http://dev.w3.org/html5/eventsource/ Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged and silence will be considered as agreement with the proposal. The deadline for comments is

CfC: new WD of File API; deadline Oct 17

2011-10-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus to publish a WD of the File API spec (last published 26-Oct-2010): http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/ Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged and silence will be considered as agreement with the proposal. The deadline for comments is

W3Conf: conference for Web App developers November 15-16

2011-10-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Sorry for the cross posting ... ] If you are looking for a conference focused on using Web APIs and HTML5 e.g. to develop Web apps, design Web apps, etc., check out this November 15-16 W3Conf conference in Redmond WA US: [[ http://w3conf.org/ = 2011: HTML5 and the Open Web Platform W3C,

Reminder: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline October 18

2011-10-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/27/11 3:56 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: On September 27 a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-WebIDL-20110927/ The deadline for comments is October 18 and all comments should be sent to: public-script-co...@w3.org The comment tracking doc

Re: Reminder: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline October 18

2011-10-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/11/11 4:08 PM, ext Travis Leithead wrote: Is there a comment tracking doc for this LC (e.g., lc2)? I don't see one in CVS. (I think Cameron returns soon though.)

CfC: publish LCWD of Web Storage; deadline Oct 20

2011-10-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Although the bug list for Web Storage is back to zero, rev 1.182 [1] which replaces the initXXXEvent method with a constructor (ala DOM4) requires a new LC. As such, this a Call for Consensus to publish a new LCWD of this spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/ The Process Document states

Reminder: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2011-10-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject:RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21 Resent-Date:Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:29:15 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:28:29 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public

CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of DOM 3 Events; deadline October 21

2011-10-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
as a CR Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:11:52 + From: ext Jacob Rossi jacob.ro...@microsoft.com To: Arthur Barstow (art.bars...@nokia.com) art.bars...@nokia.com, Charles McCathieNevile (cha...@opera.com) cha...@opera.com CC: Doug Schepers (schep...@w3.org) schep...@w3.org, www-...@w3.org www-...@w3

CfC: publish new WD of Indexed Database API; deadline Oct 21

2011-10-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of the Indexed Database API spec (last published 19-Apr-2011): http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndexedDB/raw-file/tip/Overview.html Agreement to the proposal: a) indicates support for publishing a new WD; and b) does not necessarily indicate

Reminder: WebApps TPAC2011 meeting Oct 31 and November 1; request for agenda topics

2011-10-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2011#Potential_Topics If you have any suggestions, please add them to the wiki or send them to this list. On 9/12/11 4:56 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: As indicated a few months ago [1], WebApps will have a f2f meeting during the October 31 - November 4

FYI: Mobile Web Applications Interoperability Event, 6-7 December 2011, Sophia-Antipolis, France

2011-10-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject: Mobile Web Applications Interoperability Event, 6-7 December 2011, Sophia-Antipolis, France Resent-Date:Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:45:25 + Resent-From:public-test-in...@w3.org Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:44:54 +0200 From: ext Francois Daoust

Re: WebSocket report at TPAC?

2011-10-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/18/11 1:14 PM, ext Peter Saint-Andre wrote: As co-director of the IETF Applications Area, I will be attending TPAC this year. If there is interest, I would be happy to provide a brief (15-minute) report to the WebApps WG about work on the WebSocket protocol at the IETF and coordination

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of DOM 3 Events; deadline October 21

2011-10-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Events as a CR Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:11:52 + From: ext Jacob Rossi jacob.ro...@microsoft.com To: Arthur Barstow (art.bars...@nokia.com) art.bars...@nokia.com, Charles McCathieNevile (cha...@opera.com) cha...@opera.com CC: Doug Schepers (schep...@w3.org) schep...@w3.org, www

Postponed: Request for Review: Test cases for DOM L3 Events

2011-10-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Alex - as I mentioned in [1], until the objections to the publication of a D3E CR are resolved I propose this RfR be postponed. -Regards, Art Barstow [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2011OctDec/0116.html On 10/14/11 1:49 PM, ext Alex Kuang wrote: We have submitted 21 test

RfC: LCWD of Web Storage ; deadline November 15

2011-10-27 Thread Arthur Barstow
On October 25 a LCWD of Web Storage was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-webstorage-20111025/ Please send all comments to public-webapps@w3.org by November 15.

RfC: LCWD of Touch Events version 1; deadline November 17

2011-10-27 Thread Arthur Barstow
On October 27, the Web Events WG published a LCWD of the Touch Events version 1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-Touch-Events-20111027/ That WG explicitly asked the WebApps WG for comments. Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the Web Events

Draft Agenda for 1 November 2011 f2f meeting

2011-11-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
The Draft agenda for the November 1 f2f meeting was updated yesterday and will like get some tweaks at the beginning of the meeting (starts @ 09:00): http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2011#Agenda_Tuesday.2C_November_1 -AB

Re: Discussion topic for Webapps F2F on Nov 1

2011-11-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Bryan - please work with Chaals to schedule some time for this topic. Currently, the schedule is full but it may be possible to shorten the time allocated for a specific topic or to add it at the end of the day i.e. 17:00:

CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of WebSockets API; deadline Nov 9

2011-11-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
During the October 31 meeting [1], there was agreement to publish a Candidate Recommendation of the WebSockets API and this is a Call for Consensus to do so: http://dev.w3.org/html5/websockets/ The remaining open editorial bug [13700] will be fixed before publication. I propose the CR exit

We just ran out of time ... [Was: Re: Component Model f2f: Actionable things]

2011-11-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/2/11 6:41 PM, ext Dimitri Glazkov wrote: You can see the minutes here: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/02-webapps-minutes.html Thanks Dimitri. First of all, thank you all for coming and participating. That goes for me and Chaals too re Monday and Tuesday! It was exhausting, and we just

Re: Spec changes for LCs and later maturity levels

2011-11-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/3/11 5:16 PM, ext Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 11/3/11 8:28 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:07:20 -0700, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: Reminder: this was a past-LC change. I think I'm not asking too much when I'm asking for a precise explanation of what

CfC: Identifying Test Spec Editors; deadline Nov 11

2011-11-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, One of the topics discussed this week was to designate a Test Spec Editor(s) for each of our specs. One reason to identify Test Spec Editors is to acknowledge that some Spec Editors don't have the cycles to lead their spec's testing effort and another is to try to prevent the

Reminder: RfC: LCWD of Web Storage ; deadline November 15

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject:RfC: LCWD of Web Storage ; deadline November 15 Resent-Date:Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:04:52 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:04:19 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps

HTML Editing APIs is already in scope [Was: Re: Draft Minutes: 31 October 2011 f2f meeting]

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is a followup on the short discussion we had on October 31 re the HTML Editing APIs ... On 11/1/11 10:05 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: The DRAFT minutes from the October 31 f2f meeting are in the following document and copied below: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html

Consolidating charter changes

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I created the following doc: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges My expectation is that Doug will this information

Re: Consolidating charter changes

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
I propose using the mail list and then after we get consensus, the wiki is updated accordingly. On 11/8/11 1:04 PM, ext James Hawkins wrote: To clarify, should we comment on this thread or in the wiki? Thanks, James On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com

Re: Who is the audience?

2011-11-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/8/11 8:50 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: On Nov 7, 2011, at 20:52 , Dimitri Glazkov wrote: One theme that was easy to observe at the conference was the pondering around who those mysterious consumers of what we do are, how to reach them, and how to reason about them. I heard people speak of

[ElementTraversal] Moving traversal from Element Traversal to DOM4?

2011-11-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Applications Working Group Issue Tracker wrote: ACTION-628: Talk to Doug about the traversal from Element Traversal to DOM4 (Web Applications Working Group) http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/628 On: Arthur Barstow Due: 2011-11-07 If you do not want to be notified on new action items

Re: Consolidating charter changes

2011-11-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/10/11 4:36 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: Hi, On Nov 9, 2011, at 00:25 , James Hawkins wrote: Under 'Additions Agreed': * Web Intents - this will be a joint deliverable with DAPI WG Pedantically, not politically: My recollection is that the agreement was only to add Web Intents to the

Re: Draft minutes: 1 November 2011 f2f meeting

2011-11-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/2/11 5:09 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: The DRAFT minutes from the November 1 f2f meeting are in the following document and copied below: The original email did not include the resource: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/01-webapps-minutes.html

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of WebSockets API; deadline Nov 9

2011-11-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Arthur Barstow wrote: During the October 31 meeting [1], there was agreement to publish a Candidate Recommendation of the WebSockets API and this is a Call for Consensus to do so: http://dev.w3.org/html5/websockets/ The remaining open editorial bug [13700] will be fixed before publication. I

Re: Consolidating charter changes

2011-11-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/11/11 12:41 PM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:37:55 -0800, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I

[workers] Moving back to LC

2011-11-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
I'd like to get Web Workers moving on the REC track but it currently is blocked by two open bugs: * 14086 When performing AJAX type queries ... What, if anything, should we do with this bug? Given it is marked as an enhancement, does anyone consider this mandatory to address before

[postmsg] Moving back to LC

2011-11-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
I'd like to get Web Messaging moving on the REC track but it currently is blocked by one open bug: * 13686 - Remove the special case from onmessage (to call start()) There has been considerable debate (e.g. re-opened six times) but some of the later comments kinda' indicate there may be some

Re: Identifying Test Spec Editors; deadline Nov 11

2011-11-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/11/11 7:53 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: On Friday, November 04, 2011 4:59 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: One of the topics discussed this week was to designate a Test Spec Editor(s) for each of our specs. We're supportive of this idea. (BTW, the title of Test Spec Editor is a bit

Re: Last Call Comments on Web Storage

2011-11-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Ashok, I agree with Tab's comments and wanted to mention some of the related history ... The relationships between WebApps' various database related specs has been discussed before and [DB-wiki] was created to help clarify the relationships. The good news is there are now 2 specs rather

CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of Web Storage; deadline Nov 25

2011-11-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
The comment period for the October 25 LCWD of Web Storage [LC] ended November 15. No bugs were submitted since the LC was published. Two comments were submitted and they are tracked in: [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WebStorage-Comments-LC-25Oct2011 I propose: a) the comments in [1]

Re: Last Call Comments on Web Storage

2011-11-18 Thread Arthur Barstow
/webapps/wiki/Database [CfC] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/0998.html On 11/14/11 5:44 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi Ashok, I agree with Tab's comments and wanted to mention some of the related history ... The relationships between WebApps' various database

Re: TAG Comment on

2011-11-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote: The idea is not to remove APIs. We have several client-side storage facilities that cover different but overlapping usecases. Can we step back and look at what we have and come up, perhaps, with a smaller set of facilities and better

Call for Contributors: TAG's Web App Storage work [Was: Re: TAG Comment on Web Storage]

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
to this e-mail (off-list responses are fine too). -Art Barstow [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage On 11/21/11 2:14 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote: The idea is not to remove APIs. We have several client-side storage facilities

Quota API and WebApps [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi IanF, All, Following up on Quota API vis-à-visCharterChanges wiki [1] ... Does the group want to add Quota API to the group's charter? If yes, where is a draft/strawman proposal? -AB [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges On 11/8/11 12:37 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote

IME and WebApps [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
/CharterChanges [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/10/31-webapps-minutes.html#item13 On 11/8/11 12:37 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I created

XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
CR was published.) -AB On 11/8/11 12:37 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: During the October 31 meeting, we discussed [1] various additions, changes and deletions for WebApps' current charter [2]. To consolidate the various proposals, I created the following doc: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps

Re: [Widgets] WidgetStorage interface

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/21/11 12:08 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi, As part of LC, I've received quite a bit of offline feedback that because of some issue in Webkit, it's difficult for implementers to reuse the WebStorage interface in a widget context: the problem is that Widget's use of Web storage

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
[[ removed the chairs list since I think this is now mostly a WebApps thing ... ]] I haven't seen any objections to dropping XHR1 and voices of support to redirect the XMLHttpRequest2 shortname to XMLHttpRequest. I think it would be helpful to some readers if the new XHR spec (i.e. the spec

Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-11-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/23/11 1:10 PM, ext Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Let's iterate and get it to the digestible point :) Thanks for the list. Given we consider Web Components already in scope, I added it to the Additions Agreed section as a reminder it should be an explicit deliverable [1]. I expect that Web

CfC: Add PointerLock and Gamepad APIs to WebApps' charter; deadline December 1

2011-11-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
/gamepad.html Original Message Subject:PointerLock and Gamepad APIs Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:04:19 -0800 From: ext Darin Fisher da...@google.com To: public-webeve...@w3.org, Web Applications Working Group WG public-webapps@w3.org, Arthur Barstow art.bars

[Widgets] CfC: add WidgetStorage interface to API spec; deadline December 1

2011-11-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below, Marcos proposed a change request to the Widget Interface spec and this is a Call for Consensus to accept this proposal and to update the spec accordingly. Marcos asserted in followups to his proposal that this change would not affect any implementations nor applications. As such, the

CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of WARP; deadline December 5

2011-11-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
The Patent Advisory Group for the WARP spec recommended the WG should continue to work on the spec [1] (Member-only) and there is no need to modify the CR [2]. Given this recommendation, plus the CR's exit criteria have been met [3], this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Proposed

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/27/11 10:51 AM, ext John-David Dalton wrote: I've been half following this thread. I'm not sure why renaming to XHR is a good idea. The DOM spec has levels (Level 2, 3) so I don't see the need to consolidate. I like the distinction and it gives devs some marker to follow for support in

CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Widget Interface; deadline December 5

2011-11-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Although there is an open CfC for some non-substantive changes to the Widget Interface [1], this is a CfC to publish a new Candidate Recommendation of this spec, provided there is consensus on [1]. The spec used as the basis of the CR is the latest ED:

FYI: New email alias for WebAppSec WG test suite work

2011-11-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject:New email alias for WebAppSec WG test suite work Resent-Date:Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:46:50 + Resent-From:public-webapp...@w3.org Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:46:08 -0700 From: ext Hill, Brad bh...@paypal-inc.com To:

CfC: publish new WD of XHR; deadline December 5

2011-11-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne completed his merge XHR and XHR2 merge and the new History section includes information about the merge. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a new WD of XHR using the following ED (not yet pub ready) as the basis: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

Re: TAG Comment on

2011-11-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
/WebStorage-Comments-LC-25Oct2011#LC-2 Thank you. Noah On 11/18/2011 10:01 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Noah - the TAG's comment has been added to the comment tracking document for this LC: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WebStorage-Comments-LC-25Oct2011#LC-2 If anyone wants to propose

Re: CfC: publish new WD of XHR; deadline December 5

2011-12-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 11/30/11 8:17 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:43 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Anne completed his merge XHR and XHR2 merge and the new History section includes information about the merge. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a new WD of XHR using

Re: file sharing services

2011-12-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/1/11 11:10 AM, ext Kyle Huey wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com mailto:jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: It's possible that someone from this mailing list could contact those services. It's more likely to happen, though, if you do it yourself.

Re: CfC: publish new WD of Indexed Database API; deadline Oct 21

2011-12-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of the Indexed Database API spec (last published 19-Apr-2011): http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndexedDB/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

CfC: publish WG Note of the old XHR(1); deadline December 8

2011-12-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
-webapps@w3.org Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 07:29:37 -0500 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: ext Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com CC: public-webapps@ public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org On 11/30/11 8:17 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote

RfC: DeviceOrientation Event Specification Last Call; deadline January 15

2011-12-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
WebApps has been asked to submit comments for the DeviceOrientation Event LCWD. Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the Geolocation WG. If you have comments, please send them to the following list by January 15: public-geolocat...@w3.org@w3.org

RfC: Geolocation API Level 2 Last Call; deadline January 15

2011-12-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
WebApps has been asked to submit comments for the Geolocation API Level 2 LCWD. Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the Geolocation WG. If you have comments, please send them to the following list by January 15: public-geolocat...@w3.org@w3.org

Re: Standards for Web applications on mobile devices: November 2011 updates

2011-12-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/6/11 7:01 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: I'm also concerned at use of the terms limited and very limited to label current implementations as being both subjective and relativistic - and it implies that attempts to implement have ceased; particularly next to well deployed, Largely

Call for Implementations: WebSocket API

2011-12-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
The WebSocket API is now a Candidate Recommendation and as such, a Call for Implementations was made [CfI]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-websockets-20111208/ The root of the test suite for this spec follows. Currently, the test suite consists of submissions from Microsoft and Ms2Ger but

Call for Implementations: Web Storage

2011-12-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Web Storage is now a Candidate Recommendation and as such, a Call for Implementations was made [CfI]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-webstorage-20111208/ The root of the test suite for this spec follows but currently there are no tests: http://w3c-test.org/webapps/WebStorage/tests/

Re: Publishing XHR (level 1 and 2)...

2011-12-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
One small typo correction below ... On 12/12/11 8:47 AM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi All - the CfCs to publish a WD of the new XHR [1] and a WG Note of the old XHR [2] resulted in different opinions expressed. We think it is important to provide a clear message (especially for those

Re: HTML Speech XG Completes, seeks feedback for eventual standardization

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Dan, WebApps already has a relatively large number of specs in progress (see [PubStatus]) and the group has agreed to add some additional specs (see [CharterChanges]). As such, please provide a relatively specific proposal about the features/specs you and other proponents would like to

Fwd: Re: Quota API and WebApps [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
To: Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com CC: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org, Ian Fette ife...@google.com Hi Arthur, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com mailto:art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Hi IanF, All, Following up on Quota API vis-à

CfC: add Quota API to WebApps' charter; deadline December 20

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Subject corrected ... On 12/13/11 7:22 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: As IanF mentioned before, Google would like to add a Quota API to WebApps' charter and Kinuko has now provided a link to a document that provides some details about this API: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Quota

[widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, The Widgets DigSig spec [W-DigSig] has been sitting in PR for over 4 months now, blocked on the Elliptic Curve PAG [ECC-PAG]. AFAICT, this PAG has just started its unspecified length Fishing Expedition seeking some unspecified level of funds to pay for some type of analysis that will

[widgets] Widget Interface is a W3C Candidate Recommendation; Call for Implementations

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
A Candidate Recommendation of the Widget Interface spec was published today: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/CR-widgets-apis-20111213/ If you have any implementation feedback, please send it to the public-webapps mail list.

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hi All, The Widgets DigSig spec [W-DigSig] has been sitting in PR for over 4 months now, blocked on the Elliptic Curve PAG [ECC-PAG]. AFAICT, this PAG has just started its unspecified length Fishing Expedition seeking some

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
This certainly WFM. TLR, PLH - what needs to be done to make this happen? -AB On 12/14/11 2:21 PM, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: this seems logical, in that any outcome for ECC (ranging from continued inclusion to removal) would have no impact on widget signature given this

Re: CfC: add Quota API to WebApps' charter; deadline December 20

2011-12-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
a test suite? -AB On 12/13/11 7:23 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Subject corrected ... On 12/13/11 7:22 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: As IanF mentioned before, Google would like to add a Quota API to WebApps' charter and Kinuko has now provided a link to a document that provides some details

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/15/11 11:51 AM, ext Brian LaMacchia wrote: Hello all, Sorry for coming to this thread late (I'm on vacation) but I want to comment on a number of points raised during this thread: 1) Concerning the suggestion to move ECDSA out of XMLDSIG 1.1, that suggestion is a non-starter for

Bug Tracking for the File* specs [Was: Re: Bug in file system Api specification]

2011-12-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Brona, For mostly historical reasons, WebApps' File* specs still use Tracker rather than Bugzilla (and IIRC, Arun also uses the list archive as well as the spec itself to track issues for the File API spec): http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products For consistency, it would be

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
TLR, FH, XMLSecWG, On 12/21/11 6:03 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: Lets go back an look at the options we have to divorce Widgets/XML Dig Sig from Elliptic Curve: 1. Remove ECC from XML Dig Sig (in my opinion, the right thing to do™): pros: - frees both XML Dig Sig and Widgets

RfC: pre-LC RDFa 1.1; deadline January 15

2011-12-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is an advanced notice that RDFa 1.1 is going back to LC so if anyone has any pre-LC comments, please send them to public-rdfa...@w3.org by January 15. Original Message Subject:Heads up: RDFa 1.1 headed into Last Call in January 2012 Resent-Date:Thu, 22 Dec

Priorities and expectations for 2012

2011-12-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, I've been thinking a bit about realistic expectations for 2012 for those specs that are already in scope in the WG's current charter (complete spec list is at [PubStatus]). Below is a list (in alphabetical order) of what I consider the WG's higher priority specs including my

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2012-01-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/29/11 11:18 AM, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: Marcos My expectation is that we should have a PAG update on progress in the first week of January (hopefully) and a timeline like Rigo noted, with full resolution of the iPR issue by March - but only the PAG chair knows the

Re: RfC: LCWD of Web Socket API; comment deadline October 21

2012-01-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/29/11 8:48 AM, ext Julian Reschke wrote: I note that http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Websockets-Comments-LC-29Sep2011 claims this was addressed but it was not. (In the meantime the reference additionally is out-of-date as RFC 6455 has been published a few days later, and not

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2012-01-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 1/3/12 4:22 AM, ext Rigo Wenning wrote: My aim as PAG chair is to conclude by March. The solution is still open. We don't know yet whether the algorithms used by XML SIG or ENC really violate the declared patents. We will hopefully know until then. I'm still waiting for one response from MIT

Re: Speech Recognition and Text-to-Speech Javascript API - seeking feedback for eventual standardization

2012-01-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
.org mailto:public-webapps@w3.org; Arthur Barstow Cc: public-xg-htmlspe...@w3.org mailto:public-xg-htmlspe...@w3.org; Dan Burnett Subject: Re: HTML Speech XG Completes, seeks feedback for eventual standardization We at Google believe

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