+1
:DG<
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <
cha...@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> as you may have noticed, Art has resigned as a co-chair of the Web
> Platform group. He began chairing the Web Application Formats group about a
> decade ago, became the leading
I am available on all of those days. Will also be happy to help with
logistics.
:DG<
ry date so as to allow me to arrange travel.
>> Otherwise, I’m happy to attend remotely anytime.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dimitri Glazkov [mailto:dglaz...@google.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 2:52 AM
>> *To:* Olli Pettay <o...@pettay.fi>
>> *
Also keenly interested in moving this forward.
:DG<
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
> > Can we discuss how we can integrate ES2015 modules into HTML on Tuesday,
> > October 27th
Folks,
Now that the Shadow DOM v1 implementations had started in a few browsers,
we need a quick get-together to iron out implementation specifics around
Shadow DOM styling and reconcile any remaining shifts (if any) in CSS
Scoping spec due to Shadow DOM v1.
To do this, we're going to meet on
Hi folks!
I just updated the meeting wiki [1] with the meeting location information.
tl;dr: it's the same room that we had in April.
[1]: https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/WebComponentsJuly2015Meeting
:DG
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:01 AM, cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
Google had offered to host
Folks,
I agree with Anne that we've been having a somewhat circular re-discovery
of the pros/cons here. I believe that the best way to address this is to
capture all of these points in one doc -- this would be a just a little
extra work for the current participants, but super awesome for the
Folks,
Many specs nowadays opt for a more imperative method of expressing
normative requirements, and using algorithms. For example, both HTML and
DOM spec do the run following steps list that looks a lot like
pseudocode, and the Web components specs use their own flavor of
prose-pseudo-code.
I
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
- v1 sets the stage for people to develop habits and expectations about
how
custom elements work. New features tend to be slowly adopted, by both
browser vendors and (partly as a consequence) developers, so even if
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
(Replying to slightly old thread.)
Another thing that might be nice is that if these elements are that
much isolated, perhaps we can consider allowing them to be renamed
them as well, similar to what module
:DG
-Original Message-
From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:ann...@annevk.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:10 PM
To: Dimitri Glazkov
Cc: Scott Miles; Ryosuke Niwa; Edward O'Connor; Travis Leithead; Maciej
Stachowiak; Arron Eicholz; public-webapps
Subject: Re: [webcomponents] How
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me wrote:
I think this model you cite Polymer using is different from what HTML
normally does, which is why it was confusing to me. In HTML the insertion
point tags (e.g. summary or li or option) act as dumb containers.
This was
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Scott Miles sjmi...@google.com wrote:
Polymer really wants Shadow DOM natively, and we think the `slot` proposal
can work, so maybe let's avoid blocking on design of an imperative API
(which we still should make in the long run).
As our entire stack is built
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org wrote:
My preference in v1:
1. select (strongly preferred). okay to rename it if we have a better
name. e.g. content select=xxx == slot select=xxx
2. select + content-slot
3. content-slot
I was assuming that content-slot is
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Hayato Ito hay...@chromium.org wrote:
Thank you! I'm afraid that we don't have enough discussion about the pros
and cons between select nodes using a selector and select nodes by a
fixed id using attribute.
BTW, here's one bit of research I'd done:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Scott Miles sjmi...@google.com wrote:
How does it work for redistribution
We've done some investigation and think it can work.
Note that distributions work just fine with slots. The only thing that
doesn't is partial redistributions, and we haven't been able
I did a quick experiment around distribution timing:
https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/blob/gh-pages/proposals/Distribution-Timing-Experiment.md.
Hope you find it helpful.
:DG
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:05 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
It seems we have three contenders for the distribution API.
1) Synchronous, no flattening of content. A host element's shadow
tree has a set of slots each exposed as a single content element to
the outside. Host
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
Open issues are kept track of here:
https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Custom_Elements
This has come up before, but it came up again at the Extensible Web
Summit so raising hopefully for the last time.
The DOM has
It might be good to document these on the wiki? Would be lost otherwise.
:DG
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@chromium.org
wrote:
Removing this breaks several use cases of which there's no alternative
currently:
Folks,
To alleviate the limitations of the github wiki (can't submit PRs easily,
etc.), we are moving to a slightly different, more streamlined (awesomer!)
model: the /proposal directory:
https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/blob/gh-pages/proposals/
It's basically the same as the wiki, but now
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me wrote:
Can you explain how you envision cloning to work a bit more? Somehow there
will be instances of these elements which are not created by their
constructors?
Also, how is it in any way similar to how canvas or input work?
Thanks Wilson and Anne!
One interesting thing I noticed is that the algo relies on
candidate.distributedNodes already being correctly populated by the nesting
shadow tree. Does that mean that we'd need to ensure the correct order of
invoking distribution among the nesting trees? Or maybe mutation
Will do.
:DG
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 2:08 AM, cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
Attached here is a clean version, which will be archived.
Note that there was a lot of sidechat in IRC it is unclear how much of
that everyone in the room was aware of. I hope the minutes are a pretty
accurate
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
One thing that worries me about the `distribute` callback approach (a.k.a.
Anne's approach) is that it bakes distribution algorithm into the platform
without us having thoroughly studied how subclassing will be done upfront.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
I've updated the gist to reflect the discussion so far:
https://gist.github.com/rniwa/2f14588926e1a11c65d3
Please leave a comment if I missed anything.
Thank you for doing this. There are a couple of unescaped tags in
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 29, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
I've updated the gist to reflect the discussion so far:
https
Thank you for writing this up, Maciej. Looking forward to the F2F.
:DG
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
In preparation for Fridays’ face-to-face, a number of
FWIW, I can see the appeal of a slot-based approach in Ryosuke/Ted/Jan
proposal.
It reduces the implementation complexity: all of the selector-checking
logic in
http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/shadow/#satisfying-matching-criteria
is replaced with (what effectively is) a map lookup.
While
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Freedman dfre...@google.com wrote:
Hi Ryosuke,
I want to start by thanking you, Ted, and Jan for taking the time to make
this proposal.
I read through the proposal, and had a quick question about how
redistribution should work with this slot concept.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
One more thing. I think it's nice to have a new comprehensive list of use
cases participants have come up over the years on the same document since
the wiki page is quite outdated.
I spent the last couple of weeks working
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Wilson Page wilsonp...@me.com wrote:
This is an interesting approach that didn't occur to me! Similar to Anne's
concerns, this would require you to have more knowledge of the internals of
the super-class component. If you own both components then this is fine.
Updated https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28446 with the
latest, to keep the history in bug.
:DG
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Wilson Page wilsonp...@me.com wrote:
This is an interesting approach
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25319
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@chromium.org
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Was an imperative form of HTML imports already considered? E.g., the
Imports bug tree:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/showdependencytree.cgi?id=20683hide_resolved=1
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25319
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Elliott Sprehn espr
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Thanks for the feedback! While the iron is hot I went ahead and
created/updated bugs in the tracker.
A problem I have with this approach
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Rahly hungry.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Kurt Cagle kurt.ca...@gmail.com wrote:
Tab,
I spend the vast majority of my time anymore in RDF-land, where
namespaces actually make sense (I'm not going to argue on the XML use of
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
I think ‘Worker’ threw me off at first J.
My original use case was to make the current model of loading components
more “local”, as AFAIK, these components can only presently be loaded by
code you
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7ci1-lBTY6AJxgN99aCMwjZKCjKv1v3y_7WLtcgM00/edit?pli=1
That seems really cool. I'm not sure worker
... found it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7ci1-lBTY6AJxgN99aCMwjZKCjKv1v3y_7WLtcgM00/edit?pli=1
:DG
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Yep. Elliott (cc'd) had a proposal like this a while back. It was coolly
received (can't remember
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Ah, thanks Dimitri.
After reading that, I'm also receiving it rather coolly. It's a very
interesting idea, but as it relates to web components, its errs strongly on
the side of isolation to the degree
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Robin Berjon ro...@w3.org wrote:
On 12/03/2015 11:07 , Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Benjamin Lesh bl...@netflix.com wrote:
What are your thoughts on this idea?
I think it would be more natural (HTML-parser-wise) if we
Yep. Elliott (cc'd) had a proposal like this a while back. It was coolly
received (can't remember the details).
:DG
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Dimitri et al.,
Has the idea of loading/parsing a Shadow DOM directly from a URL
There could be more details there, but here's the summary of the problem:
https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Custom_Elements#Subclassing_existing_elements
:DG
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Халитов Кирилл voro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello. My issue is described there
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl
wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
In that regard, perhaps what we need another option (although 4 might be
a developer friendly superset of this):
5) Don't do anything. Custom
Filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28092 to add more data
to the informative content around the normative statement that makes this
happen.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Wait, what do you mean by that is what custom elements provide for
today..
The entire pattern of template-stamping depends on the fact
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Working on it now. Will report back shortly.
The location at the Google Mountain View campus. Will update as soon as I
have the room/building info.
Location: Google Mountain View Campus.
Sorry grammar bad
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com
wrote:
When will you be able to confirm the location? Regardless, I think we
should consider the meeting as confirmed.
Working on it now. Will report back shortly.
:DG
Folks,
Following Art's suggestion [1], I propose a Web Components-specific F2F
with with the primary goal of reaching consensus on the Shadow DOM
contentious bits [2].
When: Friday, April 24, 2015
Where: Google San Francisco or Mountain View (to be confirmed)
What: a one-day meeting
Tentative
Can you file a spec bug?
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?comment=blocked=20683short_desc=%5Bimports%5D%3A%20product=WebAppsWGimport=import%20Model
:DG
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Ashley Gullen ash...@scirra.com wrote:
I filed crbug.com/458799 for Chrome recently since
Ryosuke, Jan,
It might be useful for you two folks to work through Jan's Shadow DOM
composition/inheritance insight (use cases?) together and see how they
could be resolved without having multiple shadow roots per element. I would
love to take advantage of all the work you both have done thinking
Folks,
I wrote a long email, replying to each point where I agreed/differed with
Ryosuke, and then deleted it, realizing I wasn't being productive.
So instead, I decided to start summarizing the contentious bits of the
current Shadow DOM spec:
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dimitri - if someone wants to provide input (f.ex. requirements ) for this
API, should they add them to the above bug (or do you recommend else)?
Yep. That's a good place.
:DG
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
... Hanging but?! Oh lordy. Oooh, let me turn this into a contemplative
sidebar opportunity.
Shadow DOM and Web Components seem to have what I call the Unicorn
Syndrome. There's a set of specs that works, proven
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Marc Fawzi marc.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
Following this thread because there is real need for what is being
discussed.
However, until that need is satisfied, here is what we're thinking to
achieve style encapsulation, using current-world technologies, and I'm
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Olli Pettay o...@pettay.fi wrote:
On 02/05/2015 02:24 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
However, I would like to first understand if that is the problem that the
group wants to solve. It is unclear from this conversation.
Yes. The marketing speech for shadow DOM
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Olli Pettay o...@pettay.fi wrote:
On 02/05/2015 02:24 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
However, I would like to first understand if that is the problem that
the group wants to solve
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Olli Pettay o...@pettay.fi wrote:
Why do we need shadow DOM (or something similar) at all if we expose it
easily
Not trying to barge in, just sprinkling data...
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Olli Pettay o...@pettay.fi wrote:
On 02/02/2015 09:22 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Brian recently posted what looks like an excellent
Brian recently posted what looks like an excellent framing of the
composition problem:
https://briankardell.wordpress.com/2015/01/14/friendly-fire-the-fog-of-dom/
This is the problem we solved with Shadow DOM and the problem I would like
to see solved with the primitive being discussed on this
One additional point, unrelated to accessibility: is also enables
piggybacking to special parser behavior of existing elements. For example,
I can extend template or link.
Here are some examples:
http://jsbin.com/xuheb/3/edit?html,output
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@apple.com wrote:
When an author imports a ES6 module, we don't create a fake object which
gets
I'm sympathetic to this but I think it is fine that DOM continues to
define new string based property names. Anytime we add a new property
to an existing class we run into this issue and I don't think we want
to give up on the superior usability of string based property names.
I agree,
No argument that callbacks are also a useful new addition.
:DG
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Yehuda Katz wyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you say more about why same-identity upgrading is critical to the
design
(as opposed to dom-mutation upgrading)? I asked up-thread but didn't
We're already doing some crude namespacing with *Callback. I'd expect
that as soon as the first iteration of Custom Elements is out, people will
copy the *Callback style in user code.
This is a powerful point that I definitely agree with. I would not be
terribly surprised to find some
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
* I think we could iterate towards a v2 that has an aspect of
upgrading but perhaps works a bit differently from the current setup.
E.g. a way to include an entire subtree of custom elements with a
fallback mechanism
FWIW, I think that element upgrade is sort of fundamental to the usefulness
of custom elements. In a world where most scripts are non-blocking (that's
hopefully the modern world we should aim for), I'll effectively expect to
walk the tree anyway.
And if I walk the tree anyway, what's the point of
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24579
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me wrote:
From: Erik Arvidsson [mailto:a...@google.com]
I'm not sure how that is speced but in Blink we have an extended IDL
attribute called CustomElementCallbacks which
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 1/12/15 12:20 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
Proto munging isn't even that big of a deal.
That really depends.
For example, dynamically changing __proto__ on something somewhat
permanently deoptimizes that object in at
For the record, I am a huge fan of exploring this. I tried a couple of
times, but was unable to extract this primitive from Shadow DOM in a clean
way. I talked with Tab late last year about restarting this effort, so this
is timely.
:DG
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Anne van Kesteren
=sharing
:DG
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
For the record, I am a huge fan of exploring this. I tried a couple of
times, but was unable to extract this primitive from Shadow DOM in a clean
way. I talked with Tab late last year about restarting
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
1) Can we use symbols to identify these instead? That gives us a
guarantee they won't be used for other things and makes it somewhat
safer to put them where they are located now.
cc'ing a few folks I heard expressing
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Yes to the first question. I wasn't planning on doing anything different
there.
It seems simple prototype munging but not actually changing
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Right, that's why to create a valid custom element that subclasses
HTMLInputElement, you should use type extensions. With type extensions
Thanks! Merged.
:DG
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Dimitri,
made quite a few tweaks to the custom element semantics section after
feedback.
Appreciate a review of the PR https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/pull/31
when you get a
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
That section needs to be updated, because the ES6 spec had shifted a
little
bit with regard to @@create. Filed
https://www.w3.org/Bugs
That section needs to be updated, because the ES6 spec had shifted a little
bit with regard to @@create. Filed
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27769.
Conceptually, when I wrote it I'd imagined that the constructor will be
called only when you explicitly invoke it (new
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/6/14 4:21 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
Hi all,
looking at the custom elements spec http://w3c.github.io/
webcomponents/spec/custom/ i realized it includes no defined
requirements or advice for web developers on
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Brendan Eich bren...@secure.meer.net
wrote:
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Domenic's question still needs addressing separately, but just a quick
response here -- the API roc described there is different. Tubes are just
like talking to a worker or any MessagePort
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
I still don't see how exposing an API via MessagePorts is in any way
better than exposing an API via WebIDL. Can you describe with concrete
examples how this makes life better for implementors or authors? I've read
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com
wrote:
Given any capability on a modern computing device and a developer who
wants to use it, what is a) the acceptable delay between when
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 11/10/14, 12:45 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
FWIW, it is perfectly reasonable for us to admit that we as a platform
aim to always be years behind other platforms. But then we should make
this clear and communicate
to virtual service workers that implement proprietary
string-based APIs using URLs that only work in certain browsers. I don't
understand how these are connected... Hope you can help me out there :)
Dimitri Glazkov mailto:dglaz...@google.com
November 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me wrote:
From: Dimitri Glazkov [mailto:dglaz...@google.com]
It's still not clear to me what the advantage is of creating a
framework for designing proprietary APIs.
If we don't do something like this as a platform, we'd
FWIW, I think we should be concentrating on something like the Tubes (aka
navigator.connect): https://github.com/dglazkov/tubes
It is hard to impossible to get these types APIs right on the first try.
That's why we need to create a clearinghouse for capability experiments and
be data-driven in
Here's an update on Custom Elements Spec.
Since the last TPAC:
* Added informative ES6 section:
http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/#es6
* Minor bug fixes
Next 6 months:
* P1: fix bugs, identified by Mozilla folks when implementing Custom
Elements:
Howdy, Web Appey folks!
Last week's telcon was super-exciting. I was the only participant. If
not for Hayato-san who stayed up late and tried to keep up my spirits,
it would've been a total tree falling in the forest.
I think it might be best to flip the regular bit to off for now,
and only use
We will be having our second Web Components telcon tomorrow (June 3).
If you'd like to suggest specific agenda items, please reply to this
mail.
Potential agenda items:
* Understanding Shadow DOM theming problem, brainstorming primitives,
maybe even filing bugs (who knows!).
* Reduce the
Since we had no topic suggestions, let's cancel the call this week.
:DG
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
As a reminder, we have our standing meeting next week:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebComponents/
Please reply to this mail with your agenda topics
Brian,
I believe Scott enumerated all these in his initial reply, but here's
my take (I wrote parts of this in another email, my apologies to that
email's recipient for repeating myself :)
HTML Imports are primarily about dependency resolution. They allow the
web developer to think locally in
As a reminder, we have our standing meeting next week:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebComponents/
Please reply to this mail with your agenda topics. I haven't had a
chance to work on specs this week, so I don't have any topics.
:DG
I also made a wiki: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebComponents/
:DG
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
Hell,
We will be having our first Web Components telcon tomorrow (May 20).
If you'd like to suggest specific agenda items, please reply
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
Sole had the idea of providing hooks for attributes so a component can
say it handles them rather than the user agent. That makes a lot of
sense to me. That way you can grab any name, even existing ones.
3 this idea,
with more details) next Monday morning.
:DG
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote:
Greetings, WebApp-ateurs!
At the last F2F, there was some positive sentiment toward setting up a
regular conference call to discuss Web Components-related topics.
On Art's
Howdy, Web-Appa-rishi,
Last week, I was looking at the Shadow DOM bugs and, sort of
impulsively, put together a quick top 10 survey that I then promptly
twittered here:
https://twitter.com/dglazkov/status/462319811326791680
I thought it might be interesting for y'alls to see the results so far:
Yay team!!
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Coralie Mercier cora...@w3.org wrote:
Hi Team,
DKA, public-webapps,
A quick follow-up that the NetAwards winner for Best New Technology 2014 is
Web Components.
Dan Appelquist is representing the W3C in London right now and got the award
on our
Greetings, WebApp-ateurs!
At the last F2F, there was some positive sentiment toward setting up a
regular conference call to discuss Web Components-related topics.
On Art's advice, I thereby present this lovely survey that seeks to
find a good time slot for such a conference call:
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