Pre-fetch rough draft

2012-10-30 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi, I mentioned this and it's somethign we are working on. Basic idea: site provides list of resources that it uses and can be cached for general improvements on the whole site. (We're seeing load-time improvement from 50% - 300% in our testing. We are using it on sites -

Re: CfC: publish new WD of File API; deadline July 3

2012-06-27 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:35:46 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Hi All - Arun is back to actively editing the File API spec and this is a Call for Consensus to publish a new WD of the spec. Please note that Arun will be committing some changes during this CfC and that the

Fwd: TPAC 2012 Registration

2012-06-22 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
We are meeting on the Monday and Tuesday. Don't forget to pay the daily attendance fee early enough to get the cheap rate. And see you in Lyon (my favourite TPAC venue so far...) cheers Chaals --- Forwarded message --- From: Ian Jacobs i...@w3.org To: W3C Members w3c-ac-fo...@w3.org

Bikesheds Re: [selectors-api] Consider backporting find() behavior to querySelector()

2012-06-21 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:26:14 +0200, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: On 2012-06-20 10:42, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: In other words we have the same arguments that we had five years ago, when we settled on querySelector as the one that provoked least objection

Re: Tags and origins (was: Re: Web Notifications)

2012-06-21 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:07:27 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: In the default case yes. Can you use something to change that (a la from-origin)? I don't really see how. Do you have an example

Re: Bikesheds Re: [selectors-api] Consider backporting find() behavior to querySelector()

2012-06-21 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:56:45 +0200, Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu kennyl...@csail.mit.edu wrote: (12/06/20 22:26), Lachlan Hunt wrote: On 2012-06-20 10:42, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: In other words we have the same arguments that we had five years ago, when we settled on querySelector as the one

Re: [selectors-api] Consider backporting find() behavior to querySelector()

2012-06-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:19:22 +0200, Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.comwrote: ... This is not a good argument. qSA is used often enough, and has a long enough name, that the name is actually a pretty significant

Re: Tags and origins (was: Re: Web Notifications)

2012-06-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:30:08 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: Seems like tags are global. I think they should be per origin. Yes I believe they should be.

Re: CfC: publish a LCWD of Selectors API Level 1; deadline June 25

2012-06-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:57:02 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Lachlan has made some changes to the Selectors API Level 1 spec (last published as a CR) and we consider the changes sufficient to require the spec be published as a Working Draft (see the [1] thread). As such,

Re: Browser Payments API proposal

2012-06-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 06:05:35 +0200, Alex MacCaw macc...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on a way of integrating one-click payments (and signup) into the browser, and I wanted to put it in front of a few people to get some feedback. The API I was playing about with was pretty simple, and is

Re: [manifest] screen sizes, Re: Review of Web Application Manifest Format and Management APIs

2012-06-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:39:35 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Anant Narayanan an...@mozilla.com wrote: Well, we haven't received this request from developers explicitly yet, but one can imagine a situation in which a developer makes an app only

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-16 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:21:09 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.comwrote: The reason for using it was in part that there were people there who were working on dom and not on the (quite high traffic) webapps list

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-14 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:35:58 +0200, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net wrote: * Ojan Vafai wrote: This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe it's time to reconsider that decision? It's the editors of the specs who have

Re: [manifest] Is the Webapp Manifest spec ready for FPWD?

2012-06-01 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:15:24 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 5/31/12 5:23 PM, ext Adam Barth wrote: Is anyone besides Mozilla interested in implementing this specification? I don't recall anyone else committing to an implementation (although it could be a bit

Re: CfC: publish WD of DOM 3 Events; deadline June 4

2012-05-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 28 May 2012 13:49:01 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Travis would like to publish a new Working Draft of the DOM 3 Events spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do so, using http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html as the basis.

Re: Howto spec

2012-05-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
There is a list called spec-p...@w3.org which is about things to do with making specs. I.e. for editors, in particular. I forwarded some stuff from this thread there - there are other preprocessing systems around, including XML toolsets. I think this stuff used to be documented somewhere,

Re: URL spec parameter-related methods use parameter in a way inconsistent with the URI RFC

2012-05-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
+1 (top post FTW) cheers On Thu, 24 May 2012 11:29:24 +0200, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: The current draft URL spec has a number of Parameter-related methods (getParameterNames, getParameterValues, hasParameter, getParameter, setParameter, addParameter, removeParameter,

Re: Shrinking existing libraries as a goal

2012-05-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 16 May 2012 06:32:51 +0200, Yehuda Katz wyc...@gmail.com wrote: In the past year or so, I've participated in a number of threads that were implicitly about adding features to browsers that would shrink the size of existing libraries. Inevitably, those discussions end up litigating

Re: History Re: [webcomponents] Template element parser changes = Proposal for adding DocumentFragment.innerHTML

2012-05-11 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
with the world we've arrived in WRT HTML vs XML and left it at that. Fair enough... cheers On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:55:27 +0200, Henri Sivonen hsivo...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Rafael

Re: [webcomponents] Custom Elements Spec

2012-05-08 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 08 May 2012 07:00:41 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2012, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: If you look at the two alternatives, one (the is attribute) asks the authors to make the right choice. The other asks the component developers to make the right choice. In the

Re: [webcomponents] Custom Elements Spec

2012-05-08 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:11:03 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: There will certainly be people who don't care about accessibility and don't do anything at all (just as there are for simple things

Re: CfC: publish a FPWD of Web Components Explainer; deadline May 9

2012-05-06 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 03 May 2012 00:03:05 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 5/2/12 1:27 PM, ext Olli Pettay wrote: I don't understand this. The explainer doesn't look like something which should become a recommendation. And it may never become a Recommendation (f.ex. the group may

Re: CfC: to stop work on XBL2; deadline May 8

2012-05-02 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:00:48 +0200, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2012, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2012 21:35:45 -0700, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: What happens if it doesn't pass? I guess we'll reevaluate then. How would this be different than what we've

Re: CfC: to stop work on XBL2; deadline May 8

2012-05-02 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 02 May 2012 06:26:26 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: During WebApps' May 1 discussion about Web Components, a proposal was made ([1],[2]) to stop work on the XBL2 spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do do. please do. cheers If you have any comments or

Re: Reminder: May 1-2 f2f meeting: registration deadline is April 16

2012-04-16 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:55:42 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: AFAIK, the deadline for registration will not be extended so please register today https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/webappshtml-s2012--meeting/. Agenda topic requests are welcome

Re: CfC: publish WD of DOM4; deadine April 2

2012-03-26 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:20:26 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: Ms2ger would like to publish a new WD of DOM4 and this is a Call for Consensus to do so: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html Agreement to this proposal: a) indicates support for publishing

Re: CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Web IDL; deadline March 26

2012-03-19 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:24:23 +0100, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: On Monday, 19 March 2012 at 10:58, Arthur Barstow wrote: Cameron has addressed the comments from Web IDL LC#3 [1] and the bug list only contains two enhancement requests [2]. As such, this is a call for consensus to

Re: Regarding app notification and wake up

2012-03-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:10:19 +0100, Stefan Hakansson LK stefan.lk.hakans...@ericsson.com wrote: The webrtc WG has identified that the ability to notify, and possibly wake up, a web application of incoming events is important. This to enable support of use cases such as incoming calls. And

Re: [widgets] Request for a CFC about Widget URI and Updates

2012-03-06 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:32:04 +0100, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com wrote: I think it might be time to have a CFC to propose moving Widget URI and Widget Updates to WG Notes. Although both specs have gotten implemented, I'm not interested in continuing the work unless I have industry

Re: CfC: publish WD of File API: Writer + File API: Directories and System; deadline March 3

2012-02-26 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:19:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus to publish new WDs of the File API: Writer + File API: Directories and System specs, using the following EDs as the basis of the publications:

Re: April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps

2012-02-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:11:52 +0100, timeless timel...@gmail.com wrote: It's Passover [1]. Passover begins in the evening of Friday, April 6, 2012, and ends in the evening of Saturday, April 14, 2012. ... Thank you for asking in advance so that we can *not* do it at this time. So the upshot

Re: April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps

2012-02-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:11:05 +0100, Andres Riofrio ariof...@cs.ucsb.edu wrote: Or the other way around. In any case, I was only making a point against systematic avoidance of major religious holidays, in favor of a more case-by-case basis. As ne of the chairs who was involved in

Re: CfC by 02-14: Add IME API to the charter

2012-02-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:38:51 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Feb 8, 2012, at 13:29 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote: thanks to Mike and the Google guys, we have http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/use-cases/Overview.html which explains what an IME API would do

CfC by 02-14: Add IME API to the charter

2012-02-08 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi, thanks to Mike and the Google guys, we have http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ime-api/raw-file/default/use-cases/Overview.html which explains what an IME API would do and why it would be useful. I believe we have editors but it doesn't name a test facilitator (don't blame me, Art chose that as

Re: Charter addition proposal: screen orientation lock

2012-02-06 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:22:30 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: ... I will let implementers speak for themselves, but my understanding is that there is interest in this feature. It is certainly a regular request from developers. In previous discussions we haven't hashed out who

Re: Charter clarification: common manifest

2012-02-06 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:51:14 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Jan 30, 2012, at 13:38 , Marcos Caceres wrote: On Monday, 30 January 2012 at 21:26, Robin Berjon wrote: It's not something that has happened to date, but I'm hearing indications that there could be interest in

Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

2012-02-01 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:43:26 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: Further explanation from Apple... --- Forwarded message --- ... 2. Speech is an area with IPR -- it's been an active research area for decades; we may have some. Without doing a lot more work I

Re: CG for Speech JavaScript API

2012-02-01 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi Satish, On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:50:25 +0100, Satish S sat...@google.com wrote: Re the mail list, if we turn this around and look at it from the perspective of someone that is mostly interested in the CG and not WebApps, they would then receive close to an additional 2K emails per quarter.

CfC Re: Charter addition proposal: screen orientation lock

2012-01-30 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
OK, since I was planning to have the charter up today, let's have a quick call for consensus on this. Please reply by end of business Wednesday if you support or object to this - silence will be taken as not explicitly supporting it, and without support it isn't going to get into the draft

Fwd: Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19

2012-01-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Further explanation from Apple... --- Forwarded message --- From: David Singer sin...@apple.com To: Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com Cc: Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com, Doug Schepers schep...@w3.org, Philippe Le Hegaret p...@w3.org, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com

The Web, and security models Re: Reporting of CORS error in the XHR API callbacks

2012-01-27 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:32:33 +0100, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: There of course places where XHR is used and there is no cross-sitescripting security needed 1) in a browser extension 2) in node.js code trusted apps These aren't the Web,

Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 24

2012-01-26 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:47:45 +0100, Glen Shires gshi...@google.com wrote: Art, Charles, We are very pleased to see the positive responses to the CfC. Me too. FWIW Opera is happy to have this work done. We think it would ideally be a joint deliverable (despite the fact that we don't like

Re: Obsolescence notices on old specifications, again

2012-01-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:02:55 +0100, Ms2ger ms2...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 01:58 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Ms2ger wrote: The recent message to www-dom about DOM2HTML [1] made me realize that we still haven't added warnings to obsolete DOM specifications to hopefully avoid that

Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 24

2012-01-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:37:35 +0100, Glen Shires gshi...@google.com wrote: Some of the reasons we believe that the JavaScript Speech API is best suited for WebApps, instead of it's own working group, include: 1. Speech is likely to become a core API, like other WebApps deliverables such as File

Re: Testing Expectations (was: Speech Recognition and Text-to-Speech Javascript API - seeking feedback for eventual standardization)

2012-01-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:06:34 +0100, Doug Schepers schep...@w3.org wrote: As such, the creation of tests should not be left to CR... there should be a plan in place (e.g. a person, and a loose policy, like as we implement, we'll make tests and contribute them to the WG), and a person

Re: Speech Recognition and Text-to-Speech Javascript API - seeking feedback for eventual standardization

2012-01-11 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:36:28 +1100, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: Satish S sat...@google.com, 2012-01-11 10:04 +: The Community Groups [1] page says they are for anyone to socialize their ideas for the Web at the W3C for possible future standardization. I don't think that page

Re: [widgets] How to divorce widgets-digsig from Elliptic Curve PAG?

2011-12-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
TL;DR: JC and Leonard are right. Pointing to a moving target makes any statement about conformance pretty much unusable in the real world. Which is significantly worse than having a statement of conformance to something known to contain errors and bugs. Browsers don't implement living

Re: XBL2, Component Model and WebApps' Rechartering [Was: Re: Consolidating charter changes]

2011-12-18 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:24:47 +0100, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 12/17/2011 04:30 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:08:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: All - What are the opinions on what, if anything, to do with XBL2 vis-a-vis the

Re: CfC: add Quota API to WebApps' charter; deadline December 20

2011-12-17 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:10:45 +0100, Kinuko Yasuda kin...@chromium.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote: Hi Kinuko, All, Besides the Chromium team, I think it would be helpful if other browser vendors would state their level of interest for

Publishing XHR (level 1 and 2)...

2011-12-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi All - the CfCs to publish a WD of the new XHR [1] and a WG Note of the old XHR [2] resulted in different opinions expressed. We think it is important to provide a clear message (especially for those not closely following WebApps' related discussions) that: 1) the group agreed to stop

Re: Publishing XHR (level 1 and 2)...

2011-12-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:47:06 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: Hi All - the CfCs to publish a WD of the new XHR [1] and a WG Note of the old XHR [2] resulted in different opinions expressed. We think it is important to provide a clear message (especially for those

Re: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of WARP; deadline December 5

2011-11-28 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:40:55 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The Patent Advisory Group for the WARP spec recommended the WG should continue to work on the spec [1] (Member-only) and there is no need to modify the CR [2]. Given this recommendation, plus the CR's exit

Re: PointerLock and Gamepad APIs

2011-11-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:04:19 +0100, Darin Fisher da...@google.com wrote: I'd like to therefore propose that instead of expanding the charter of WebEvents to include PointerLock and Gamepad, that we instead add those APIs to another WG such as WebApps. I believe they make sense in WebApps given

Re: [Widgets] CfC: add WidgetStorage interface to API spec; deadline December 1

2011-11-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:42:08 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2011, at 15:36 , Arthur Barstow wrote: Marcos asserted in followups to his proposal that this change would not affect any implementations nor applications. As such, the change request, if applied, will not

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi, ACTION-629 from the webapps meeting at TPAC is to check whether any group has a normative dependency on XMLHttpRequest level 1. Otherwise we are likely to request the AC to let us drop it from our list of deliverables. We don't have an editor to finish

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:35:22 +0100, Giuseppe Pascale giusep...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:31:55 +0100, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:37 +0100, Marcos Caceres w...@marcosc.com wrote: Better yet, dump the 2 version number and just have

Re: Identifying Test Spec Editors; deadline Nov 11

2011-11-13 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:09:15 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 11/11/11 7:53 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: On Friday, November 04, 2011 4:59 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: One of the topics discussed this week was to designate a Test Spec Editor(s) for each of our specs.

Re: Consolidating charter changes

2011-11-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:36:24 +0100, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: On 11/10/11 4:36 AM, ext Robin Berjon wrote: Hi, On Nov 9, 2011, at 00:25 , James Hawkins wrote: Under 'Additions Agreed': * Web Intents - this will be a joint deliverable with DAPI WG Pedantically, not

Re: [DRAFT] Web Intents Task Force Charter

2011-11-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:54:36 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: here is a draft of the Intents joint Task Force charter for comments from WebApps and Device APIs... The Web Intents Task Force works on a joint deliverable of the WebApps and Device APIs WGs that aims to produce a way

Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Hi, ACTION-629 from the webapps meeting at TPAC is to check whether any group has a normative dependency on XMLHttpRequest level 1. Otherwise we are likely to request the AC to let us drop it from our list of deliverables. We don't have an editor to finish whatever needs to be done, and we

Re: [ElementTraversal] Moving traversal from Element Traversal to DOM4?

2011-11-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:54:31 +0100, Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com wrote: On Nov 9, 2011, at 15:19 , Arthur Barstow wrote: Doug, All - as a followup to the short conversation on October 31 re moving the traversal part of Element Traversal to DOM4, do you have any thoughts on what, if

Re: Dropping XMLHttpRequest 1 (just do 2)?

2011-11-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:46:45 +0100, Karl Dubost ka...@opera.com wrote: ACTION-629 I found only 2 references found to XMLHttpRequest CR version (3 August 2010) [1] Thanks for looking around. # Resource Timing [2] Reference to XHR in the interface 4.3 The PerformanceResourceTiming

Re: CfC: new WD of File API; deadline Oct 17

2011-10-14 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:25:42 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus to publish a WD of the File API spec (last published 26-Oct-2010): Do it... http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/ Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged

Re: CfC: publish new WD of Indexed Database API; deadline Oct 21

2011-10-14 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:04:06 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of the Indexed Database API spec (last published 19-Apr-2011): Yes please. cheers http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndexedDB/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

Re: Adding Web Intents to the Webapps WG deliverables

2011-09-25 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:04:29 +0200, Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com wrote: With all due respect, I think that if we have to re-charter or create a new working group each time a new API comes up we are all doomed. The overhead of creating and monitoring so many WGs is not appealing to

Re: Joystick support

2011-08-25 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:23:19 +0200, Tran, Dzung D dzung.d.t...@intel.com wrote: This seems like it could fit more into the Web Events WG. In the Web Events, we deal with touch events, which are user inputs, this seems to be in the same category. Yes, I also think this belongs in Web

Re: CfC: publish Last Call WD of Progress Events; deadline August 2

2011-07-26 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:12:40 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: The pre-LC comment period for Progress Events resulted in no comments [1]. As such, Anne proposes a new LC be published and this is a CfC to do so: Opera supports publishing. cheers -- Charles 'chaals'

Re: CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of view-mode Media Feature; deadline July 27

2011-07-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:30:41 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: As mentioned in [1], the exit criteria of the view-mode Media Feature Candidate Recommendation [2] has been met (at least two implementations pass every test):

CfC: IETF Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures

2011-07-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
FYI --- Forwarded message --- From: Philippe Le Hegaret p...@w3.org To: w3c-html-cg w3c-html...@w3.org, w3c-xml...@w3.org Cc: Subject: Media Type Sepecifications and Registration Procedures Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:00:26 +0200 W3C Working Groups are *highly* encouraged to review [[

Re: Test suites and RFC2119

2011-07-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
understanding the impacts of what we do is probably worth the effort. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Fwd: Discontinuing UK and FR dial-in numbers for Zakim

2011-07-11 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
as an international solution. We will drop these numbers at the end of the month, please alert your Working Groups. The US number will remain available. -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals

Re: CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline July 7

2011-07-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
specification to encourage broader review and comments. Sorry, I'm in the midst of sending comments on WebIDL. I should be done by Tuesday... Hi Josh, do you think these comments should hold up the request for last call, or are you happy for that to go ahead? cheers Chaals -- Charles

Re: Test suites and RFC2119

2011-07-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
to be able to test. But the difference between should and must is already two sets of conformance profiles (or whatever you want to call it), where one applies always and the other applies unless there's a reason not to do the thing that is assumed to be normal. cheers -- Charles

Re: Test suites and RFC2119

2011-07-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:34:59 +0200, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: Privacy and security restrictions leap to mind. There are things that really are should requirements because there are valid use

Re: Where to discuss TR process issues? [Was: Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
(TV Raman) to present concerns through the Advisory Committee forum. Whether you chose to do so or not, these issues are being followed in the relevant fora - but this group isn't really it. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français

Re: Test suites and RFC2119

2011-07-04 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
of that already outweighs the benefit by so much it seems pointless to go there. just my 2 cents chaals - Rich [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/test-methodology/ -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals

Re: [Widgets] Mozilla open apps

2011-06-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
thread, but thought it might be of interest. S Best, Mike -- Michael Hanson, Mozilla Labs -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: RfC: moving Web Storage to WG Note; deadline June 29

2011-06-27 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
uses of this feature where the race is unlikely to cause a problem. Yep, Opera agrees. So, do you have someone available to edit the spec thus and help it through the Rec track? cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español

Re: Is Progress Events spec ready for Candidate Rec? [Was: Re: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events; deadline June 1]

2011-06-07 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
2011 at the latest: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: [WARP] it's just too strict...

2011-06-02 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
requirement because it was causing issues for developers. I don't doubt that this will cause more problems in the future. Kind regards, Marcos -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try

Re: [widgets] localizing author

2011-05-24 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 18:29:50 +0200, Marcos Caceres marcosscace...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just realised that I actually localise my own name... But I cannot do

Re: [widgets] WARP usability issue

2011-05-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
-- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: [widgets] localizing author

2011-05-04 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
versions the required behaviour is clear in v1 processing, I can live with that if the group decides to take that approach. Pity though. Turns out we're not infallible yet ;) cheers -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg

Re: Proposal for a web application descriptor

2011-05-02 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
to. If you think I should post this proposal somewhere else please say so. Kind regards, Simon Heckmann -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-05-01 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
the Forms group as well, given that it doesn't require much squinting to get to the perspective where you're pretty much reinventing a wheel they've already got two of. and, further, that this work bears some relation to XBL. As well, at least conceptually. cheers Chaals -- Charles

Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-04-10 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
... However, removing the active value from a select seems suboptimal. If you see: State: [ |v] And use it to get: State: [ Washington |v] When you copy it, do you expect: State: or State: Washington? I expect the latter, it's considerably more useful. Agree. -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera

Re: [widgets] localizing author

2011-04-09 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 01:22:07 +0200, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 Apr 2011, at 09:42, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi, I just realised that I actually localise my own name in certain languages ... But I cannot do that in config.xml. Likewise, I would like

[widgets] localizing author

2011-04-08 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
yet checked (I only realised I want to do this but it isn't allowed today) whether we have any preference for making that change now or later. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com

Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:37:46 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote: This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of Hallvord's Clipboard API and Events spec: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html Please do... cheers -- Charles McCathieNevile

Re: Status of Selectors API Level 1 Candidate

2011-02-22 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: [FileSystem]: URI format, uses

2011-01-23 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
small number of single webpages. And often without loggin in, those are not actually available to anyone. So as a user, it seems functionally the same except the particular hoops for putting things online which are different in every single case. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile

Re: [widgets] Removed LocalizableString interface from Widgets API

2011-01-21 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
you automatically port it? I agree with Marcos that it is very valuable to automatically be able to move a localised app from one environment (e.g. app store, or dev toolkit) to another and know how the localisation works... cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards

Re: Proposal for a page visibility API

2011-01-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
- you can find out what the current tab is, but a tab would have to do that then compare to itself, rather than being able to directly query its state. I am finding that there are disadvantages to not ahving that information readily available. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera

Re: The Emperor's New APIs: On the (In)Secure Usage of New Client-side Primitives

2011-01-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
improvements to the way origin checking and control over recipients are handled for postMessage seem to make sense... *I might change that opinion after discussion with security people Cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español

Re: [widgets] Removed LocalizableString interface from Widgets API

2011-01-05 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
of the widget object to find out what language that attribute may be written in (if such information was declared via xml:lang in the widget's configuration document). You can't directly query the xml:lang attribute? cheers -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je

Re: CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-12 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
for publishing? cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-11 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
-08 -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

Re: DOM3 Events last call comment

2010-10-21 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
were right at the time and still do. Meanwhile, there is now momentum to specify a better approach to events, and make it work. I think that deserves support as the best way to use our energy to get something better. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group

Re: Fwd: Re: CfC: publish a new WD of Progress Events; deadline October 14

2010-10-07 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be assent. -Art Barstow -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http

Re: [progress-events] Update

2010-10-05 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
). cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com

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