RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2009-01-20 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
BTW: When it comes to some page/web-app instantiating a widget... how does the publisher/developer make reference to the widget to be instantiated and/or the package from which it is to be instantiated (if those are regarded as separate things)? I'm sorry, I'm not sure I

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-15 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Hello Marcos, -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marcosscace...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 December 2008 22:21 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: www-...@w3.org; public-webapps; public-pkg-uri-scheme-requ...@w3.org Subject: Re: Sketch of an idea to address

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-06 Thread timeless
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Jonathan Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to burst ignorantly into a discussion I know little about... but that's what I'm going to do. Forgive me. Regarding the creation of local URIs for use in APIs requiring URIs: I want to consider, just as a what-if

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-06 Thread Jonathan Rees
On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:58 AM, timeless wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Jonathan Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to burst ignorantly into a discussion I know little about... but that's what I'm going to do. Forgive me. Regarding the creation of local URIs for use in APIs

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-06 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Jonathan, On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:58 AM, timeless wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Jonathan Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to burst ignorantly into a discussion I know little about... but that's what I'm

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rees
I hate to burst ignorantly into a discussion I know little about... but that's what I'm going to do. Forgive me. Regarding the creation of local URIs for use in APIs requiring URIs: I want to consider, just as a what-if meant for clarification of requirements, the use of the tag: URI

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-04 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Marcos, The TAG suggested that I re-post the idea that I floated at the beginning of this thread on the new list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and encourage any continuation of this thread to take place there - which I have now done [1]. Also, with some irony, I think that I'm beginning to get a

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-04 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Stuart, On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcos, The TAG suggested that I re-post the idea that I floated at the beginning of this thread on the new list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and encourage any continuation of this thread to

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Hello Marcos, -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 November 2008 20:12 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps Subject: Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos, Stuart, On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:29 AM, ext Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) wrote: From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, widgets/zip do not maintain media-type information. That information is derived from content-type sniffing heuristics as defined in HTML5

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Stuart, On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Unfortunately, widgets/zip do not maintain media-type information. That information is derived from content-type sniffing heuristics as defined in HTML5 [1]. [Aside: Hmmm process

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread John Kemp
ext Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) wrote: The assumption here is that the package format also maintains media-type information for each of the things that it contains that all the packages, outer, innerpkg, moreNestedPkg and mypkg are marked with a media-type that defines a fragment

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread timeless
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM, John Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it not the case that a zip file containing widgets is a representation of an HTTP resource in its own right? no. it is not the case. a widget is a widget in its own right, there may or often may not be a similar object

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
-Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 15:28 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps Subject: Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Hello Art, -Original Message- From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 15:10 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol); Marcos Caceres Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps Subject: Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID

RE: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
Hello John, -Original Message- From: John Kemp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 15:35 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: Marcos Caceres; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps Subject: Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Dan Brickley
Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) wrote: Well there are ways around that, add a package description or meta-data file either at the root of the package or at each directory level and have it carry media-type information - or use 'magic numbers' or (if you really must - in the absense of

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) wrote: Well there are ways around that, add a package description or meta-data file either at the root of the package or at each directory level and have it carry media-type information

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-12-01 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Stuart, On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 15:28 To: Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; public-webapps

Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-11-28 Thread Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol)
[Resending with minor corrections and to get tracker's attention and include public-webapps] I just wanted to float an outline of a not very baked idea for trying to solve the widget referencing problem with a media-type/fragment identifer approach - those IMO being the 'right' extension

Re: Sketch of an idea to address widget/package addressing with fragID syntax and media-type defn.

2008-11-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Williams, Stuart (HP Labs, Bristol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to float an outline of a not very baked idea for trying to solve the widget referencing problem with a media-type/fragment identifer approach - those IMO being the 'right' extension