RE: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-26 Thread Travis Leithead
From: Anne van Kesteren [mailto:ann...@annevk.nl] Depending on the changes we make based on https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/wiki/Shadow-DOM:-Contentious-Bits this might already be the case. Also, I believe currently the Web Components polyfill makes some assumptions about all of Web

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-26 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: Are we OK with a non-URL-based creation model (as used today) being fairly different from a URL-based creation model? I think so. [A] breaking change for existing implementations. Depending on the

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-20 Thread Travis Leithead
] URL-based shadows? On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: 5. I like this. Though it's really only necessary for the cross-origin use case. I think it's worth mentioning that the existing setup further encourages the rather dangerous practice

RE: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-20 Thread Travis Leithead
Ryosuke Niwa [mailto:rn...@apple.com] wrote: Travis wrote: 2.4. I keep running into trouble when thinking about a declarative model for web components because declarative models are based on persistent objects in the DOM, and those persistent objects are fully mutable. In other words, you

RE: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-18 Thread Travis Leithead
/2013OctDec/0418.html From: Ryosuke Niwa [mailto:rn...@apple.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:26 PM To: Travis Leithead Cc: Dimitri Glazkov (dglaz...@google.com); WebApps WG; Anne van Kesteren (ann...@annevk.nl); Arron Eicholz Subject: Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows? On Mar 12, 2015, at 5:46 PM

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-18 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: I think ‘Worker’ threw me off at first J. My original use case was to make the current model of loading components more “local”, as AFAIK, these components can only presently be loaded by code you

RE: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-18 Thread Travis Leithead
relates to cross-origin (or not) components. From: Dimitri Glazkov [mailto:dglaz...@google.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 8:07 AM To: Anne van Kesteren Cc: Travis Leithead; WebApps WG; Arron Eicholz; Elliott Sprehn Subject: Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows? On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Anne

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-18 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mar 12, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: Has the idea of loading/parsing a Shadow DOM directly from a URL been discussed already? (e.g., a sort-of “micro-import” or an import that parses its document directly into the ShadowRoot container?)

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-16 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7ci1-lBTY6AJxgN99aCMwjZKCjKv1v3y_7WLtcgM00/edit?pli=1 That seems really cool. I'm not sure worker is the right terminology since at the moment worker sort of implies there's no node

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-16 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7ci1-lBTY6AJxgN99aCMwjZKCjKv1v3y_7WLtcgM00/edit?pli=1 That seems really cool. I'm not sure worker is

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-13 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
... found it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V7ci1-lBTY6AJxgN99aCMwjZKCjKv1v3y_7WLtcgM00/edit?pli=1 :DG On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com wrote: Yep. Elliott (cc'd) had a proposal like this a while back. It was coolly received (can't remember the

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-13 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: Ah, thanks Dimitri. After reading that, I'm also receiving it rather coolly. It's a very interesting idea, but as it relates to web components, its errs strongly on the side of isolation to the degree

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-13 Thread Travis Leithead
. From: Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@google.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:44 AM To: Travis Leithead Cc: WebApps WG; Anne van Kesteren (ann...@annevk.nl); Arron Eicholz; Elliott Sprehn Subject: Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows? ... found it: https

[Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-12 Thread Travis Leithead
Dimitri et al., Has the idea of loading/parsing a Shadow DOM directly from a URL been discussed already? (e.g., a sort-of micro-import or an import that parses its document directly into the ShadowRoot container?) I'm curious to know if there's some obvious flaw that I'm missing.

Re: [Shadow] URL-based shadows?

2015-03-12 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Yep. Elliott (cc'd) had a proposal like this a while back. It was coolly received (can't remember the details). :DG On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: Dimitri et al., Has the idea of loading/parsing a Shadow DOM directly from a URL