Re: [coord] Re: Request for Inter-Group Coordination at TPAC

2013-11-01 Thread James Craig
+ public-webapps

 On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:44 AM, James Craig jcr...@apple.com wrote:
 
 Hi Art.
 
 On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
 
 To help WebApps prepare for the discussion, I think it would be helpful if 
 you would please provide some background information. For example, the URL 
 of the IndieUI User Context specification, the proposal for a new way for 
 user agents to restrict access to certain groups of media resources.
 
 The new approach we’re hoping to discuss is pretty new, so these aren’t in 
 spec form yet. I’m hoping to change that before TPAC.
 
 The current editor’s draft still has the old key/value pair approach (which 
 we’d decided to scrap), and can be found here:
 
 https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/default/src/indie-ui-context.html



Re: [coord] Re: Request for Inter-Group Coordination at TPAC

2013-11-01 Thread Arthur Barstow

Hi Janina,

Thanks, let's consider this joint meeting confirmed.

WebApps will have Zakim available for its Shenzhen meeting and we will 
use the #webpps IRC channel. The PIN (9274# / WAPI) and logistics are 
included in our agenda page 
http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/November2013Meeting#Meeting_Logistics.


If Daniel and/or Peter (or other CSS people) want to join us, they are 
certainly welcome although it could be a little tight.


-Thanks, Art

On 11/1/13 11:34 AM, ext Janina Sajka wrote:

Thanks, Art. That time will work. Are you able to teleconference in your
room? I would like to have James Craig, and possibly also Rich
Schwerdtfeger in on our conversation, and neither of them will be
physically in Shenzhen.


I'll leave it to James Craig to provide an example of what we propose to
move toward in our User Context module over the next few days. As he
notes in his separate email, this is new thinking for us, just approved
this week. I'm certain, though, James can have something for us in time
for our meeting.

Janina Sajka, IndieUI Chair

Arthur Barstow writes:

[ + public-webapps ]

Hi Janina, All,

I added a 30 minute slot on Monday November 11 from 13:30-14:00
(Shenzhen time). Unless I hear otherwise from you, I will assume
this slot is OK and that we will meet in WebApps' meeting room.

To help WebApps prepare for the discussion, I think it would be
helpful if you would please provide some background information. For
example, the URL of the IndieUI User Context specification, the
proposal for a new way for user agents to restrict access to
certain groups of media resources.

-Thanks, Art

On 10/31/13 3:39 PM, ext Janina Sajka wrote:

Dear Colleagues:

The Independent User Interface Working Group (IndieUI) requests approximately
30 minutes of time to meet with CSS and Web Apps (jointly or separately) at
TPAC to acquaint your working groups with a new technical approach in IndieUI
specifications.

The IndieUI User Context specification is moving away from a reliance on a new
accessor method for key/value pairs, and toward an extensive reliance on Media
Queries (new media features, and matchMedia) as the more appropriate approach
for specifying the features we need. To address privacy and fingerprinting
concerns, we will also be proposing a new way for user agents to restrict
access to certain groups of media features based on user preference. For
example, if a site referenced a media feature related to video captions (via
matchMedia or @media), the user agent may prompt the user to allow access for
the domain. We expect that significant portions of our emerging User Context
specification will overlap with work coordinated by the CSS or Web Apps Working
Groups.

Therefore, we are requesting time with your group at TPAC to acquaint you with
our approach and to develop an understanding of how best we can move forward.
If possible, we would prefer a morning meeting time in order to more
conveniently teleconference our specification editor from North America.

Thank you for your consideration.

Janina Sajka, IndieUI Chair






Re: UNS: Re: [coord] Re: Request for Inter-Group Coordination at TPAC

2013-11-01 Thread Janina Sajka
Thanks, Art. This covers things, I believe. I look forward to seeing you
in person in China.

Janina

Arthur Barstow writes:
 Hi Janina,
 
 Thanks, let's consider this joint meeting confirmed.
 
 WebApps will have Zakim available for its Shenzhen meeting and we
 will use the #webpps IRC channel. The PIN (9274# / WAPI) and
 logistics are included in our agenda page 
 http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/November2013Meeting#Meeting_Logistics.
 
 If Daniel and/or Peter (or other CSS people) want to join us, they
 are certainly welcome although it could be a little tight.
 
 -Thanks, Art
 
 On 11/1/13 11:34 AM, ext Janina Sajka wrote:
 Thanks, Art. That time will work. Are you able to teleconference in your
 room? I would like to have James Craig, and possibly also Rich
 Schwerdtfeger in on our conversation, and neither of them will be
 physically in Shenzhen.
 
 
 I'll leave it to James Craig to provide an example of what we propose to
 move toward in our User Context module over the next few days. As he
 notes in his separate email, this is new thinking for us, just approved
 this week. I'm certain, though, James can have something for us in time
 for our meeting.
 
 Janina Sajka, IndieUI Chair
 
 Arthur Barstow writes:
 [ + public-webapps ]
 
 Hi Janina, All,
 
 I added a 30 minute slot on Monday November 11 from 13:30-14:00
 (Shenzhen time). Unless I hear otherwise from you, I will assume
 this slot is OK and that we will meet in WebApps' meeting room.
 
 To help WebApps prepare for the discussion, I think it would be
 helpful if you would please provide some background information. For
 example, the URL of the IndieUI User Context specification, the
 proposal for a new way for user agents to restrict access to
 certain groups of media resources.
 
 -Thanks, Art
 
 On 10/31/13 3:39 PM, ext Janina Sajka wrote:
 Dear Colleagues:
 
 The Independent User Interface Working Group (IndieUI) requests 
 approximately
 30 minutes of time to meet with CSS and Web Apps (jointly or separately) at
 TPAC to acquaint your working groups with a new technical approach in 
 IndieUI
 specifications.
 
 The IndieUI User Context specification is moving away from a reliance on a 
 new
 accessor method for key/value pairs, and toward an extensive reliance on 
 Media
 Queries (new media features, and matchMedia) as the more appropriate 
 approach
 for specifying the features we need. To address privacy and fingerprinting
 concerns, we will also be proposing a new way for user agents to restrict
 access to certain groups of media features based on user preference. For
 example, if a site referenced a media feature related to video captions 
 (via
 matchMedia or @media), the user agent may prompt the user to allow access 
 for
 the domain. We expect that significant portions of our emerging User 
 Context
 specification will overlap with work coordinated by the CSS or Web Apps 
 Working
 Groups.
 
 Therefore, we are requesting time with your group at TPAC to acquaint you 
 with
 our approach and to develop an understanding of how best we can move 
 forward.
 If possible, we would prefer a morning meeting time in order to more
 conveniently teleconference our specification editor from North America.
 
 Thank you for your consideration.
 
 Janina Sajka, IndieUI Chair
 

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