Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Nottingham
FWIW, we also have “Server Push” in HTTP/2; that seems confusable as well… On 11 Mar 2014, at 7:36 pm, Michael van Ouwerkerk mvanouwerk...@google.com wrote: I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would like to avoid confusing concepts and terminology in the Push API

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
I agree, Push Message is the term that is used in other standards e.g. OMA Push. The use of the term notification was a reflection of the current simplified API design which provides only a trigger to the application, as a notification that some data is available at the server. As we consider

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, we will look out for additional potentially confusing term overlap as suggested. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Michael van Ouwerkerk mvanouwerk...@google.commailto:mvanouwerk...@google.com wrote: I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-13 Thread SULLIVAN, BRYAN L
Sure, but this is only a reflection of the semantic space of the English language. Many things can be source of confusion. Understanding context is the responsibility of the reader. We will do what we can to provide clarifying guidance on the use of terms, but Push Message is a well-established

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-11 Thread Michael van Ouwerkerk
I think that's a great suggestion Jeffrey. Specifically, I would like to avoid confusing concepts and terminology in the Push API with those in Web Notifications: http://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/ This is important because these two APIs are often discussed together: an app might display a

Re: [push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin jyass...@google.comwrote: The term push notification in https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/tip/index.html#dfn-push-notification seems to confuse people into thinking that the user will be notified/bothered when such a message arrives. This is

[push] Consider renaming push notification to push message in the Push API spec

2014-03-10 Thread Jeffrey Yasskin
The term push notification in https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/push/raw-file/tip/index.html#dfn-push-notification seems to confuse people into thinking that the user will be notified/bothered when such a message arrives. This is reinforced by the fact that iOS uses push notification for exactly that: a way