Re: [widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-16 Thread Marcos Caceres
2009/3/5 Frederick Hirsch frederick.hir...@nokia.com:
 yes that has been the case ever since I've started working on this.

 Perhaps there is a W3C standard stylesheet we should be using. I'm not sure 
 why the spec defines its own styles


No reason, please removed them if they are causing problems.


-- 
Marcos Caceres
http://datadriven.com.au



[widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
The minutes from the March 5 Widgets voice conference are available  
at the following and copied below:


 http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-wam-minutes.html

WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send  
them to the public-webapps mail list before 12 March 2009 (the next  
Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered  
Approved.


-Regards, Art Barstow

   [1]W3C

  [1] http://www.w3.org/

   - DRAFT -

   Widgets Voice Conference

05 Mar 2009

   [2]Agenda

  [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 
2009JanMar/0622.html


   See also: [3]IRC log

  [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-wam-irc

Attendees

   Present
  Art, Frederick, Josh, Jere, Marcos, Arve, David, Benoit

   Regrets
  Claudio, Bryan

   Chair
  Art

   Scribe
  Art

Contents

 * [4]Topics
 1. [5]Review and tweak agenda
 2. [6]Announcements
 3. [7]DigSig + PC synchronization
 4. [8]Issue-19 - Widgets digital Signatures spec does not meet
required use cases and requirements;
 5. [9]Issue-80 - Runtime localization model for widgets
 6. [10]Issue-82 - potential conflict between the XHTML
access and Widget access element.
 7. [11]Issue-83 - Instantiated widget should not be able to
read digital signature.
 8. [12]Widget requirement #37 (URI scheme etc) - see e-mail
from Thomas:
 9. [13]Open Actions
10. [14]June f2f meeting
11. [15]TPAC meeting in November
12. [16]Window Modes
13. [17]Editorial Tasks
14. [18]Anything Else
 * [19]Summary of Action Items
 _



   scribe ScribeNick: ArtB

   scribe Scribe: Art

   Date: 5 March 2009

   fjh widgets signature editors draft update

   fjh
   [20]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [20] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating- 
signatures


   fjh
   [21]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [21] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating- 
signatures


Review and tweak agenda

   AB: agenda posted March 4 - is
   [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/06
   22.html
   ... the main agenda items are Open Issues. I only want to spend a
   few minutes on each of them to get a sense of where we are e.g.
   still Open, pending inputs, can be Closed. Any detailed technical
   discussions should occur on public-webapps mail list.
   ... Are there any change requests?

 [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/ 
2009JanMar/0622.html


   [ None ]

Announcements

   AB: I don't have any urgent announcements
   ... what about others?

   FH: please submit comments on XML Sig 1.1 drafts

   DR: I will respond to Art's BONDI 1.0 email so please look at that

   fjh please review XML Signature 1.1 and XML Signature Properties
   FPWD

   fjh [23]http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item25

 [23] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item25

   MC: I uploaded the Window Modes spec; would like to get that on the
   agenda

DigSig + PC synchronization

   AB: earlier this week Frederick asked me if the DigSig + PC specs
   are now in synch, based on last week's discussions?

   fjh
   [24]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [24] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating- 
signatures


   AB: I believe the answer is yes.
   ... where are we on this?

   MC: FH and I talked about this
   ... I think this is mostly now addressed
   ... PC has no real depedency on DigSig

   fjh marcos notes merged steps 4 +5, moved locating to dig sig,
   removed signature variable from p + c

   MC: I haven't completed the PC changes yet
   ... e.g. renumber some steps

   fjh fjh notes revised text on locating to fit it within digsig but
   essence is same

   FH: I had to revise the location text a bit but the logic is the
   same
   ... Josh asked about the sorting
   ... I need to think about that a bit more

   JS: need to clarify diff between 9 and 009
   ... we can take this discussion to the list

   FH: I agree we need more rigor here

   MC: I agree too
   ... need to address case sensitivity too

   AB: can we point to some existing work?

   FH: I don't think this is a big issue and agree we can discuss on
   the list

   AB: what needs to be done then?

   FH: I need to make a few changes to DigSig and MC needs to do a bit
   more on PC

   JS: re styling, orange doesn't work well for me regarding
   readability

   MC: I can help with that

   FH: I'll take a pass at that

   DR: re the ell curve issue, I have asked OMTP to provide comments by
   March 9 so I should have data for the WG by Mar 12

Issue-19 - Widgets digital Signatures spec does not meet required use
cases and requirements;


Re: [widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-05 Thread Frederick Hirsch
I updated the style for code items in the Digital Signature  
specification to brown.


Does this work better? It does not conflict with other color uses as  
far as I can tell.


Please look at
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/  (refresh)


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote:


The minutes from the March 5 Widgets voice conference are available
at the following and copied below:

 http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-wam-minutes.html

WG Members - if you have any comments, corrections, etc., please send
them to the public-webapps mail list before 12 March 2009 (the next
Widgets voice conference); otherwise these minutes will be considered
Approved.

-Regards, Art Barstow

   [1]W3C

  [1] http://www.w3.org/

   - DRAFT -

   Widgets Voice Conference

05 Mar 2009

   [2]Agenda

  [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0622.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

  [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/05-wam-irc

Attendees

   Present
  Art, Frederick, Josh, Jere, Marcos, Arve, David, Benoit

   Regrets
  Claudio, Bryan

   Chair
  Art

   Scribe
  Art

Contents

 * [4]Topics
 1. [5]Review and tweak agenda
 2. [6]Announcements
 3. [7]DigSig + PC synchronization
 4. [8]Issue-19 - Widgets digital Signatures spec does not  
meet

required use cases and requirements;
 5. [9]Issue-80 - Runtime localization model for widgets
 6. [10]Issue-82 - potential conflict between the XHTML
access and Widget access element.
 7. [11]Issue-83 - Instantiated widget should not be able to
read digital signature.
 8. [12]Widget requirement #37 (URI scheme etc) - see e-mail
from Thomas:
 9. [13]Open Actions
10. [14]June f2f meeting
11. [15]TPAC meeting in November
12. [16]Window Modes
13. [17]Editorial Tasks
14. [18]Anything Else
 * [19]Summary of Action Items
 _



   scribe ScribeNick: ArtB

   scribe Scribe: Art

   Date: 5 March 2009

   fjh widgets signature editors draft update

   fjh
   [20]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [20] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-
signatures

   fjh
   [21]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [21] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-
signatures

Review and tweak agenda

   AB: agenda posted March 4 - is
   [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JanMar/ 
06

   22.html
   ... the main agenda items are Open Issues. I only want to spend a
   few minutes on each of them to get a sense of where we are e.g.
   still Open, pending inputs, can be Closed. Any detailed technical
   discussions should occur on public-webapps mail list.
   ... Are there any change requests?

 [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
2009JanMar/0622.html

   [ None ]

Announcements

   AB: I don't have any urgent announcements
   ... what about others?

   FH: please submit comments on XML Sig 1.1 drafts

   DR: I will respond to Art's BONDI 1.0 email so please look at that

   fjh please review XML Signature 1.1 and XML Signature Properties
   FPWD

   fjh [23]http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item25

 [23] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item25

   MC: I uploaded the Window Modes spec; would like to get that on the
   agenda

DigSig + PC synchronization

   AB: earlier this week Frederick asked me if the DigSig + PC specs
   are now in synch, based on last week's discussions?

   fjh
   [24]http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-signatures

 [24] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/#locating-
signatures

   AB: I believe the answer is yes.
   ... where are we on this?

   MC: FH and I talked about this
   ... I think this is mostly now addressed
   ... PC has no real depedency on DigSig

   fjh marcos notes merged steps 4 +5, moved locating to dig sig,
   removed signature variable from p + c

   MC: I haven't completed the PC changes yet
   ... e.g. renumber some steps

   fjh fjh notes revised text on locating to fit it within digsig  
but

   essence is same

   FH: I had to revise the location text a bit but the logic is the
   same
   ... Josh asked about the sorting
   ... I need to think about that a bit more

   JS: need to clarify diff between 9 and 009
   ... we can take this discussion to the list

   FH: I agree we need more rigor here

   MC: I agree too
   ... need to address case sensitivity too

   AB: can we point to some existing work?

   FH: I don't think this is a big issue and agree we can discuss on
   the list

   AB: what needs to be done then?

   FH: I need to make a few changes to DigSig and MC needs to do a bit
   more on PC

   

Re: [widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-05 Thread Jere.Kapyaho
Easier on the eye, but to me it's pretty close to the color of RFC 2119 keyword 
style (em.ct).

Seems like the body text font has grown in size somewhat, compared to other 
specs.

--Jere

On 5.3.2009 18.03, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) 
frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:

I updated the style for code items in the Digital Signature
specification to brown.

Does this work better? It does not conflict with other color uses as
far as I can tell.

Please look at
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/  (refresh)


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote:

JS: re styling, orange doesn't work well for me regarding
readability

MC: I can help with that

FH: I'll take a pass at that



Re: [widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-05 Thread Frederick Hirsch

yes that has been the case ever since I've started working on this.

Perhaps there is a W3C standard stylesheet we should be using. I'm not  
sure why the spec defines its own styles


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Kapyaho Jere (Nokia-D-MSW/Tampere) wrote:

Easier on the eye, but to me it’s pretty close to the color of RFC  
2119 keyword style (em.ct).


Seems like the body text font has grown in size somewhat, compared  
to other specs.


--Jere

On 5.3.2009 18.03, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) frederick.hir...@nokia.com 
 wrote:


I updated the style for code items in the Digital Signature
specification to brown.

Does this work better? It does not conflict with other color uses as
far as I can tell.

Please look at
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/  (refresh)


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote:

JS: re styling, orange doesn't work well for me regarding
readability

MC: I can help with that

FH: I'll take a pass at that






Re: [widgets] Minutes from 5 March 2009 Voice Conference

2009-03-05 Thread Frederick Hirsch

how about simple italics for code?

I'll also look into reducing body text

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote:


yes that has been the case ever since I've started working on this.

Perhaps there is a W3C standard stylesheet we should be using. I'm not
sure why the spec defines its own styles

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Kapyaho Jere (Nokia-D-MSW/Tampere) wrote:


Easier on the eye, but to me it’s pretty close to the color of RFC
2119 keyword style (em.ct).

Seems like the body text font has grown in size somewhat, compared
to other specs.

--Jere

On 5.3.2009 18.03, Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston) 
frederick.hir...@nokia.com

wrote:


I updated the style for code items in the Digital Signature
specification to brown.

Does this work better? It does not conflict with other color uses as
far as I can tell.

Please look at
http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/  (refresh)


regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote:


  JS: re styling, orange doesn't work well for me regarding
  readability

  MC: I can help with that

  FH: I'll take a pass at that