Call for Contributors: TAG's Web App Storage work [Was: Re: TAG Comment on Web Storage]

2011-11-23 Thread Arthur Barstow

Hi All,

Off-list, Ashok and I talked about his comments and TAG's Web 
Application Storage work [1]. Ashok would welcome WebApps' participation 
in that work. Thus, for the WebApps group - this is call for contributors.


If you are interested in contributing to this area, please respond to 
this e-mail (off-list responses are fine too).


-Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage

On 11/21/11 2:14 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote:

On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote:

The idea is not to remove APIs.

We have several client-side storage facilities that cover different 
but overlapping
usecases.  Can we step back and look at what we have and come up, 
perhaps, with a

smaller set of facilities and better coordinated APIs.


If this is important to the TAG, it seems like you should add that 
task to the Web Application Storage work the TAG intends to do. Agreed?


-AB

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage







Re: Call for Contributors: TAG's Web App Storage work [Was: Re: TAG Comment on Web Storage]

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Nottingham
What effect will this effort have on the implementations? Are they listening?

Cheers,


On 23/11/2011, at 11:49 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Off-list, Ashok and I talked about his comments and TAG's Web Application 
 Storage work [1]. Ashok would welcome WebApps' participation in that work. 
 Thus, for the WebApps group - this is call for contributors.
 
 If you are interested in contributing to this area, please respond to this 
 e-mail (off-list responses are fine too).
 
 -Art Barstow
 
 [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage
 
 On 11/21/11 2:14 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote:
 On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote:
 The idea is not to remove APIs.
 
 We have several client-side storage facilities that cover different but 
 overlapping
 usecases.  Can we step back and look at what we have and come up, perhaps, 
 with a
 smaller set of facilities and better coordinated APIs.
 
 If this is important to the TAG, it seems like you should add that task to 
 the Web Application Storage work the TAG intends to do. Agreed?
 
 -AB
 
 [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage
 
 
 

--
Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/






Re: Call for Contributors: TAG's Web App Storage work [Was: Re: TAG Comment on Web Storage]

2011-11-23 Thread ashok malhotra

Hi Mark:
The idea is to involve some of those folks in this effort.
All the best, Ashok

On 11/23/2011 2:49 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:

What effect will this effort have on the implementations? Are they listening?

Cheers,


On 23/11/2011, at 11:49 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:


Hi All,

Off-list, Ashok and I talked about his comments and TAG's Web Application 
Storage work [1]. Ashok would welcome WebApps' participation in that work. 
Thus, for the WebApps group - this is call for contributors.

If you are interested in contributing to this area, please respond to this 
e-mail (off-list responses are fine too).

-Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage

On 11/21/11 2:14 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote:

On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote:

The idea is not to remove APIs.

We have several client-side storage facilities that cover different but 
overlapping
usecases.  Can we step back and look at what we have and come up, perhaps, with 
a
smaller set of facilities and better coordinated APIs.

If this is important to the TAG, it seems like you should add that task to the Web 
Application Storage work the TAG intends to do. Agreed?

-AB

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage




--
Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/







Re: Call for Contributors: TAG's Web App Storage work [Was: Re: TAG Comment on Web Storage]

2011-11-23 Thread Noah Mendelsohn
I should also clarify that the TAG itself has not at this point reached 
consensus on the goals or scope for any work we might do in the storage 
area, though we have given Ashok an action to investigate what, if 
anything, might be useful.


One possible direction would be for the TAG to do what it has done in some 
other areas, which is to clarify architectural principles relating to 
client-side storage in general. E.g., the TAG might discuss tradeoffs and 
good practice relating to cases in which the information stored locally is 
also a representation of a resource available on the network (thing of an 
architecture in which e-mails can be accessed via URI from an online Web 
server, or can be stored locally for offline access.) Such consideration by 
the TAG might well not suggest any changes to plans for APIs, but might 
just suggest good practice for use by applications.


Conversely, the TAG might decide to become involved in other questions, 
such as those that might follow from our recent last call comment [1] 
regarding the relationship between appcache and Web Storage.


In any case, except for the decision to make that one last-call comment, 
the TAG has not reached consensus as to what work we might do relating to 
client-side storage.


Noah Mendelsohn
TAG co-chair

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2011Nov/0070.html

On 11/23/2011 6:09 PM, ashok malhotra wrote:

Hi Mark:
The idea is to involve some of those folks in this effort.
All the best, Ashok

On 11/23/2011 2:49 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:

What effect will this effort have on the implementations? Are they
listening?

Cheers,


On 23/11/2011, at 11:49 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:


Hi All,

Off-list, Ashok and I talked about his comments and TAG's Web
Application Storage work [1]. Ashok would welcome WebApps' participation
in that work. Thus, for the WebApps group - this is call for contributors.

If you are interested in contributing to this area, please respond to
this e-mail (off-list responses are fine too).

-Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage

On 11/21/11 2:14 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote:

On 11/20/11 8:33 PM, ext ashok malhotra wrote:

The idea is not to remove APIs.

We have several client-side storage facilities that cover different
but overlapping
usecases. Can we step back and look at what we have and come up,
perhaps, with a
smaller set of facilities and better coordinated APIs.

If this is important to the TAG, it seems like you should add that task
to the Web Application Storage work the TAG intends to do. Agreed?

-AB

[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/sum10#webappstorage




--
Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/