Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-06 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:28 PM, cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: So the question turns on whether the changes would invalidate a patent review, and my quick guess is that the answer is yes ;( Really? I would have made the opposite conclusion. Changing the event source makes a very small

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-06 Thread chaals
06.10.2014, 09:19, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc: On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:28 PM,  cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:  So the question turns on whether the changes would invalidate a patent review, and my quick guess is that the answer is yes ;( Really? I would have made the opposite

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/2/14 2:44 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Though I also agree with Mounir. Changing the event source doesn't seem like a change that's substantial enough that we'd need to go back to WD/LCWD. Does any implementation actually feel that it would be? So, it appears you two recommend #2 below

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-05 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/2/14 2:44 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: Though I also agree with Mounir. Changing the event source doesn't seem like a change that's substantial enough that we'd need to go back to WD/LCWD. Does any implementation

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-02 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Can we at least publish a new WD so people stop referring to the old TR/? -- Mounir On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, at 20:36, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/25/14 9:26 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, at 21:52, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/25/14 6:36 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: It

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-02 Thread chaals
Please please do. That's a useful thing to do regularly… 02.10.2014, 13:17, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr: Can we at least publish a new WD so people stop referring to the old TR/? -- Mounir On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, at 20:36, Arthur Barstow wrote:  On 9/25/14 9:26 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote:  

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 10/2/14 7:15 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: Can we at least publish a new WD so people stop referring to the old TR/? Yes of course. (And certainly continue to work with Anne, Marcos, etc. on a mutually agreeable way forward for Issue 75.) And speaking of Issue 75: On 9/25/14 9:26 AM,

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-02 Thread Jonas Sicking
Though I also agree with Mounir. Changing the event source doesn't seem like a change that's substantial enough that we'd need to go back to WD/LCWD. Does any implementation actually feel that it would be? / Jonas On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: Can we

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-01 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, at 23:26, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, at 21:52, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/25/14 6:36 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: It effectively comes down to the fact that the specification describes something, but Chrome implements it in another way per how I

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: Last I checked, animation frame task was still underdefined. This is what you can read in the WHATWG's fullscreen specification: Animation frame task is not really defined yet, including relative order within that task,

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-10-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 9/25/14 9:26 AM, Mounir Lamouri wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, at 21:52, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 9/25/14 6:36 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: It effectively comes down to the fact that the specification describes something, but Chrome implements it in another way per how I suggested it should

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-25 Thread Lars Knudsen
Second, I'm still very worried that people will interpret screen.orientation.angle=0 as portrait. I don't expect to be able to convince people here to remove the property. However I think it would be good to at least make it clear in the spec that the .angle property can not be used to detect

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-25 Thread Marcos Caceres
On September 18, 2014 at 6:53:38 AM, Mounir Lamouri (mou...@lamouri.fr) wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, at 08:28, Jonas Sicking wrote: I think it's likely to result in many implementation bugs if we rely on this being defined buried inside an algorithm rather than at least mentioned at the

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-24 Thread Marcos Caceres
On September 24, 2014 at 8:43:10 AM, Anne van Kesteren (ann...@annevk.nl) wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Anne - would you please confirm if your comments have been adequately addressed? I disagree with the prioritization of creating a snapshot over

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
During this CfC, Jonas submitted some comments to this list starting with the following: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014JulSep/0531.html Jonas - did Mounir's responses adequately address your comments or is there something you propose be done before LCWD is published?

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-18 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, at 08:28, Jonas Sicking wrote: I think it's likely to result in many implementation bugs if we rely on this being defined buried inside an algorithm rather than at least mentioned at the definition of the property. I think it's good feedback. I could probably make this

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-15 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Mounir Lamouri mou...@lamouri.fr wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, at 08:52, Jonas Sicking wrote: It's somewhat inconsistent that we use the term natural to indicate the most natural direction based on hardware, but we use the term primary when indicating the most

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-12 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, at 08:52, Jonas Sicking wrote: Sorry, my first comment is a naming bikeshed issue. Feel free to ignore as it's coming in late, but I hadn't thought of it until just now. I remember a wise person who once said never count on me to bikeshed names. I think he was named Jonas

CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Mounir and Marcos would like to publish a LCWD of The Screen Orientation API and this is a Call for Consensus to do using the latest ED (not yet in the LCWD template) as the basis: https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/ The spec has three open Issues, all labeled Future + Enhancement and

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote: Mounir and Marcos would like to publish a LCWD of The Screen Orientation API and this is a Call for Consensus to do using the latest ED (not yet in the LCWD template) as the basis:

Re: CfC: publish LCWD of Screen Orientation API; deadline September 18

2014-09-11 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Also, I can't find any normative definition of if orientation.angle should increase or decrease if the user rotates a device 90 degrees clockwise? My bad, I see it now. Given how easy this is to get wrong, it might be worth