Toward more productive f2f meetings [Was:Re: Feedback needed for April 2015 face-to-face location by *January 27, 2015*]
On 1/20/15 5:38 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: We are fortunate enough to have two proposed locations for the HTML and Web Applications face-to-face meeting in the week of April 13-17, 2015. Your feedback will help us picking the location. 1. Redmond, WA, USA (Hosted by Microsoft): 2. Zaragoza, Spain (Hosted by Yandex) Please provide your preferences at: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ by January 27, 2015. We will then try to make sense out of the input and pick the location. Hi All, As you can see from the results at [1] and [2], there is no dominant preference for either location. One option to determine the winner is to re-open the survey to try to get additional data (and there could be other options). I'd like to take this as an opportunity to step back a bit and to discuss: what is the value proposition of WebApps' f2f meetings; how to maximize the usefulness of f2f meetings; how to make f2f meetings more productive. All feedback is welcome! My current thinking is two-fold. First, I think we should continue to have a f2f meeting during the annual TPAC all group meeting week. This would help satisfy what I would characterize as the geographical equalizer meeting requirement. (If anyone finds that term offensive, I apologize. I do agree with efforts to share the pain regarding travel time and related costs and I think the possibility for cross-group meetings at TPAC can be quite valuable.) Although f2f meetings can have a number of non-technical benefits, in general, I'm not convinced our previously used structure of a two-day meeting that touches on a broad set of the the group's 30+ specs is especially effective in solving high priority technical issues. Additionally, if the current replies for this survey are roughly equivalent to the set of people that would actually attend one of these meetings/venues, I am somewhat skeptical significant technical progress will be made regardless of the venue. Instead of a centralized broadly scoped f2f meeting, perhaps it would be more useful to have topic-specific meetings located at or near the critical mass of active contributors, and only have such a meeting if the editors and key contributors commit to participate. For example, a Web Components meeting (as was done in 2013), an Editing and Selection meeting, etc. Again, all feedback is welcome! Last, regardless of the next step, I want to thank Philippe for his effort, and Chaals and Paul Cotton for getting support to host the meeting. -Thanks, ArtB [1] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/results [2] http://intertwingly.net/tmp/w3c-spring-2015
[admin] Important: Feedback needed for April 2015 face-to-face location by *January 27, 2015*
All Editors and Active contributors - I would greatly appreciate it if you would please reply to this poll. If you do not intend to attend the meeting `live` regardless of its location, please reply with No to both locations and state in the comments something like will not attend. https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ -Thanks, ArtB On 1/20/15 5:38 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: All, We are fortunate enough to have two proposed locations for the HTML and Web Applications face-to-face meeting in the week of April 13-17, 2015. Your feedback will help us picking the location. 1. Redmond, WA, USA (Hosted by Microsoft): 2. Zaragoza, Spain (Hosted by Yandex) Please provide your preferences at: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ by January 27, 2015. We will then try to make sense out of the input and pick the location. Thank you in advance, Philippe
Re: Feedback needed for April 2015 face-to-face location by *January 27, 2015*
21.01.2015, 01:40, Philippe Le Hegaret p...@w3.org: All, We are fortunate enough to have two proposed locations for the HTML and Web Applications face-to-face meeting in the week of April 13-17, 2015. Your feedback will help us picking the location. 1. Redmond, WA, USA (Hosted by Microsoft): 2. Zaragoza, Spain (Hosted by Yandex) Actually it is hosted by the Ayuntamiento de Zaragoza (i.e. the city council, who have been a member for about a decade, and do a lot of good stuff. I just asked around for a host and passed on their very generous offer). Please provide your preferences at: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ I can't fill in the survey yet ;( My preference is Zaragoza. It's about the same pain to get there from the airport (without having to rent a car), but you end up in Zaragoza, which costs much less than Redmond, has a real city with life, bars, history, architecture, and everything is walkable with a good public transport system as well. Plus it has been 2 1/2 years since we met in Europe (compared to twice in a year on the West Coast - beating our long term average of 1 and a bit times / year). by January 27, 2015. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex cha...@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
Re: Feedback needed for April 2015 face-to-face location by *January 27, 2015*
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 02:03 +0300, cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: 21.01.2015, 01:40, Philippe Le Hegaret p...@w3.org: All, We are fortunate enough to have two proposed locations for the HTML and Web Applications face-to-face meeting in the week of April 13-17, 2015. Your feedback will help us picking the location. 1. Redmond, WA, USA (Hosted by Microsoft): 2. Zaragoza, Spain (Hosted by Yandex) Actually it is hosted by the Ayuntamiento de Zaragoza (i.e. the city council, who have been a member for about a decade, and do a lot of good stuff. I just asked around for a host and passed on their very generous offer). Please provide your preferences at: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ I can't fill in the survey yet ;( My mistake. You should be able to now. Philippe
Feedback needed for April 2015 face-to-face location by *January 27, 2015*
All, We are fortunate enough to have two proposed locations for the HTML and Web Applications face-to-face meeting in the week of April 13-17, 2015. Your feedback will help us picking the location. 1. Redmond, WA, USA (Hosted by Microsoft): 2. Zaragoza, Spain (Hosted by Yandex) Please provide your preferences at: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42538/webapps-spring-2015/ by January 27, 2015. We will then try to make sense out of the input and pick the location. Thank you in advance, Philippe
