Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-12-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: While good work has gone into the IDL/JavaScript Call Level Interface (CLI), we have made no progress on its SQL language specification and are not likely to in the future. For the record, we've made no progress because I explicitly wasn't going

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-21 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:23:38 +0100, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: ...As I noted at TPAC, at Microsoft we don't think we'll collectively be able to achieve reasonable interop because of the SQL

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-20 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:23:38 +0100, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: ...As I noted at TPAC, at Microsoft we don't think we'll collectively be able to achieve reasonable interop because of the SQL dialect issue ... it seems unlikely that there will be two independent

RE: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-20 Thread Adrian Bateman
On Friday, November 20, 2009 4:44 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:23:38 +0100, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.com wrote: ...As I noted at TPAC, at Microsoft we don't think we'll collectively be able to achieve reasonable interop because of the SQL dialect issue

RE: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-19 Thread Adrian Bateman
On Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:51 PM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: I think it make sense to clarify in working drafts that this spec is unlikely to be interoperable across the web at large, but is usable for various specific systems. I don't think it makes sense to just turn it into a

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-18 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I'm not sure that further back-and-forth on this topic is useful at this time. I know that you are strongly against Web Database. You have expressed that view for some time, and I don't expect to change your mind. I don't find your arguments particularly persuasive either. If we continue

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-18 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:35:57 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Further: if the other vendors planning to ship Web Database implementations (Google, Opera, perhaps others who have not spoken up yet) take the position that they would be like to end work on Web Database at the

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:35:57 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Further: if the other vendors planning to ship Web Database implementations (Google, Opera, perhaps others who have not spoken up yet) take

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-18 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Further: if the other vendors planning to ship Web Database implementations (Google, Opera What they are going to ship is mostly the same implementation as

Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-17 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
Hi guys, I've been thinking about the WebDatabase specification [1] and I've come to two conclusions. (1) We are miles away from consensus on this specification, and, hence, we should _not_ consider putting it out for last call. (2) While good work has gone into the IDL/JavaScript Call

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-17 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Hi guys, I've been thinking about the WebDatabase specification [1] and I've come to two conclusions. (1) We are miles away from consensus on this specification, and, hence, we should _not_ consider putting it out for last call. (2)

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-17 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Hi guys, I've been thinking about the WebDatabase specification [1] and I've come to two conclusions. (1) We are miles away from consensus on this specification, and, hence, we

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-17 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Hi guys, I've been thinking about the WebDatabase specification [1] and I've come to two conclusions. (1) We are miles away

Re: Let's turn WebDatabase into a WG Note

2009-11-17 Thread Nikunj R. Mehta
On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Nikunj R. Mehta wrote: Hi guys, I've been thinking about the WebDatabase specification [1]